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  • ThirdConsul@lemmy.mltoMemes@lemmy.mlKnow the difference
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    2 days ago

    komunalka

    also, I’m not talking about them. They were a thing in the 50’s (after the war) when people were sharing bathrooms or kitchens, they were no longer really a thing in the 80’s. In the 80’s apartments had their own bathrooms and kitchens.

    edit: isn’t that basically “Friends” for USA people? :D


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    Also, you create a false dichotomy here suggesting that if free housing was built the way USSR did it today then it would have to be built to the 1950s standard.

    I was describing buildings from the `80.

    Obviously there’s absolutely no reason why you couldn’t be building modern style apartments.

    … so the ones I described as “so many cons that I’m too sad to talk about them and we have a separate wiki page to describe how awful they can get”?



  • ThirdConsul@lemmy.mltoMemes@lemmy.mlKnow the difference
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    I live in Poland. We have both of them.

    1. Soviet-era apartment buildings

    PROs:

    • everything within a walking distance (shops, schools, a clinic, etc)
    • a lot of parks nearby
    • fucking wind corridors
    • you can’t piss from your window to your neighbors coffe cup
    • you will see some greenery from your window

    CONs:

    • tiny
    • very low ceilings - you most likely won’t be stretch your arm upwards.
    • very bad acoustic - you can hear downstairs cutting green onions
    • a lot of apartments on a floor (and very tiny lifts)
    1. Modern buildings:

    PROs:

    • high ceilings
    • you can piss from your window on your neighbor’s bed if you’re into it.

    CONs:

    • … we have a whole wikipedia page about it: https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patodeweloperka
    • I honestly don’t want to talk about it, it’s so sad. Generally speaking, bad quality (but deceptively good looking) places that cost too much, in a shitty neighborhood.
    • no wind corridors so say hello to air pollution

    Now, I know this sub tends to romanticize USSR, but during occupation (so until 1990) it wasn’t that you had an apartment for yourself for every single person. If we just want to consider recent history (like 1980) then:

    • your apartment wasn’t yours - it was tied to your job. Like US healthcare. If you lost the job, you would lose the apartment. They were also limited to at most 1 per family.
    • If you wanted to move to a different city to get a job there, then it could be impossible if the company didn’t have free apartments there. Often it didn’t. There was an semi-official apartment swapping market that often involved a chain of swaps in multiple cities.
    • In practice you wouldn’t get a bigger apartment if you had children. You could try to swap for it. Most apartments were overcrowded and multigenerational AND small. It was common for a 3 generational family to live in a 3 room apartment (not “bedroom”, room).


  • ThirdConsul@lemmy.mltoMemes@lemmy.mlRednote right now
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    TIL if someone’s saying something that doesn’t agree with your worldview then that person must be an LLM.

    If the USSR apologist I was replying too had talked to old people claiming to remember USSR fondly, then either they remember the propaganda, or they youth fondly, or they were in the party. My grandma started remembering USSR kinda fondly when she was getting too old to function by herself.

    And you need to work on your reading comprehension if you read my post as USA being affected by old USSR propaganda - I meant the (now) old people who lived then.


  • ThirdConsul@lemmy.mltoMemes@lemmy.mlRednote right now
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    5 days ago

    What’s your point? The west is shit? Not arguing here.

    USSR good? Any old Polish people saying that? I’d love to meet them and check if they weren’t high positioned in the Party at that time.

    Edit: I wonder if a thought that some people might be missing USSR might be because of old propaganda materials ever visited you?



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    As a Polish person, if you say anything good about USSR without acknowledging it was shit stealing, people murdering, generation destroying piece of shit, I’d like to invite you to talk to some of the old people who remember, read diarys or fucking analysis.

    Do you know they even decimated our fucking cuisine?

    Sorry if you weren’t implying anything positive about USSR, I have short fuse here.