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Is it okay for non-Americans to answer this?

What? I pretty explicitly said the opposite

There are three main camps of ethics:
virtue ethics, which I think you’re describing,
consequentialism (which is exclusively about the outcome of actions),
and deontology, which are the moral objectivists.

Deontologists argue that virtues and outcomes don’t matter- that there are universal underlying rules determining what is good or bad.

I believe the answer to ‘what that would actually mean’ is something along the lines of “it just is”

Morality is an ‘is’ if you frame it as good vs evil like the context of this post

The way it was explained to me was as analogous to maths. Idk much mathematical theory, but there are supposedly mathematical truths inherent to the universe, and this argument for morality is similar- that it doesn’t come from somewhere, it just is. I don’t think ‘judgement’ has anything to do with it, bc that would be subjective like you said

When I worked at an inpatient psychiatric hospital, we had a few regulars who would self-admit to the detox unit just to have a place to stay with free food

Edit: there was no judgment about this though btw- if there was a bed available and they met admission criteria, they’d be admitted regardless of their intent

something that isn’t well defined can’t exist.

People before gravity was well defined:

I’m an amoralist and a determinist; I only disagree with you on the basis of claiming these things as fact

The world would look the same way it does now with or without objective morality. Objective morality is just the idea that moral truths exist independent of individual beliefs. E.g., that raping babies is an inherently immoral thing regardless of an individual’s feelings about it

Again though, I personally don’t believe this. I just won’t claim to know that there is no objective morality. No one can know that, the same way no one can know that there’s no god, or anything else unfalsifiable

The best argument I’ve heard for it, from a moral philosophy professor and personal friend of mine, is (paraphrasing) “I know for a fact that genocide is inherently wrong, and I’m not open to debating that. It’s just true.”

Wow, that’s whack. Have you ever considered trying to track down that teacher and ask her what the fuck?

Worst that happened to me was I was chewing on the inside of my cheek and my teacher thought it was gum, and made me spit nothing into the trash can

Your reasoning is bad- I was just trying to point it out gently without being too explicit about calling you out for the arrogant moron you are.

Lots of hella smart people have made this topic their entire life for literally thousands of years, and the debates are still ongoing. An individual’s observations mean little

Your comment does the same thing you’re critiquing OOP for doing. What gives you the authority to claim as fact that there exists no objective morality?

Edit: tbc, I also don’t believe in object morality, but what I have issue with is the apparent contradiction you’ve made

I’m currently crowd funded, but I’ve been thinking about seeing if Blue Cross Blue Shield wants to fund me

Fantastic, thanks!

I’m trying to find a word that I can use in contexts like, e.g., “As an anarchist, I don’t agree with ____s.” I can’t do that with socialists and communists because I do jive with libertarian socialists and anarcho-communists. I suppose the only safe option is to just be specific and say Marxists/Maoists/etc, but I was hoping there’d be a word to describe the “archist” component of these ideologies that I don’t vibe with without having to get so specific.

Can we just steal “archists” back? Lol (From Marsden, I mean)

Yeah, I’m familiar with this argument, I just don’t agree with the way you’re using the word (and tbh I don’t think it’s worth arguing over- I just want a better word to use to avoid having to avoid this argument)

Idk I feel like that’s not the kind of distinction I’m looking for, because I like anarcho-communism

Edit:

Re: @m532@lemmygrad.ml

If anarcho-communism isn’t communism, why is “communism” in its name?

What? I didn’t say it’s not communism, I’m saying that calling y’all communists isn’t necessarily a distinction from anarchists, bc there’s an anarchist version of communism.

Hi, anarchist here. What word should we use to differentiate y’all from us? Liberals use tankie to mean anyone further left than biden (and it obv has a strong negative connotation), and y’all define authoritarian and state in a way that makes those labels unhelpful. Without having to know someone’s specific ideology, what word should be used if not authoritarian?

Yeah I think it’s specifically casein in my case