From their website:

Computers, notebooks, PCs and laptops from TUXEDO Computers are not mass-produced or off-the-shelf. Each device is individually assembled, installed, configured and tested for you.

If they are coming from Windows: Kinoite

If they are coming from Macintosh: Silverblue

I’ve been impressed with F-Droid’s press releases. If they have a snowball’s chance in hell of stopping this, they are certainly giving it a clear and concise effort.

Yep well said. My hope is that Google’s recent changes will encourage some activity into other projects or (even better) a Linux Phone OS.

Oh my goodness automatic theme transitions finally!

Oh interesting I read “atomic” and assumed it meant small. As in small updates to an immutable system.

It’s actually slightly less risk especially for someone’s PC you won’t be around 100% of the time to help fix. Immutable just means the system files can’t be edited.

The “atomic” part means it gets frequent (daily, if desired) updates but you can change in the settings to only check monthly so it doesn’t feel crazy.

I support this and would suggest Fedora Kinoite which is Fedora’s immutable version with KDE Plasma and is very very hard to meaningfully break.

Right, and I’m saying Zorin is perfect for them. Zorin exists in a weird space where it’s great for the type of person who would never really consider installing Linux in the first place.

No it’s a great recommendation.

Yes Bazzite is great I tried it out recently and loved it.

I didn’t say “average person” and end the sentence. I said the average person installing linux. The type of person who installs Linux in the first place is already extremely far from average.

I would consider act of installing Linux itself to be “tinkering”.

The average person who is installing Linux wants to be able to tinker.

The type of person who installs Linux in the first place is already extremely far from average.

I didn’t say average person I said average Linux installer which is FAR from the average person.

Zorin is a solid distro and is designed to appeal to Windows users.

Buuuut knowing what I know now I worry Zorin’s simplicity could turn people off of Linux. Zorin is a good OS for your grandmother but the average person who would consider installing Linux wants to be able to tinker. Heck, I would consider the very act of changing your operating to be tinkering. Nobody accidentally stumbles installing Linux.

The options with Zorin are either use it as-is or risk breaking it. That’s why I would personally recommend a KDE distro, probably something immutable like Fedora Kinoite. That way you can tinker to your heart’s content with no fear of breaking it.

I know, I’m adding to what you said. I’m saying unfairness is not an “issue” of capital punishment, it’s how it is, always has been, and is impossible to do without unfairness.

Heaven is almost certainly not real, and I didn’t mention that. I only mentioned God as as example of something “greater” than man. I did not say God or heaven was real.

I’ll go one further, I wouldn’t trust any human being to make that decision.

And you get to determine who is “steadfastly evil”?

I think it’s wrong to knowingly inflict suffering in others in any capacity.