Right, and I’m saying Zorin is perfect for them. Zorin exists in a weird space where it’s great for the type of person who would never really consider installing Linux in the first place.

No it’s a great recommendation.

Yes Bazzite is great I tried it out recently and loved it.

I didn’t say “average person” and end the sentence. I said the average person installing linux. The type of person who installs Linux in the first place is already extremely far from average.

I would consider act of installing Linux itself to be “tinkering”.

The average person who is installing Linux wants to be able to tinker.

The type of person who installs Linux in the first place is already extremely far from average.

I didn’t say average person I said average Linux installer which is FAR from the average person.

Zorin is a solid distro and is designed to appeal to Windows users.

Buuuut knowing what I know now I worry Zorin’s simplicity could turn people off of Linux. Zorin is a good OS for your grandmother but the average person who would consider installing Linux wants to be able to tinker. Heck, I would consider the very act of changing your operating to be tinkering. Nobody accidentally stumbles installing Linux.

The options with Zorin are either use it as-is or risk breaking it. That’s why I would personally recommend a KDE distro, probably something immutable like Fedora Kinoite. That way you can tinker to your heart’s content with no fear of breaking it.

I know, I’m adding to what you said. I’m saying unfairness is not an “issue” of capital punishment, it’s how it is, always has been, and is impossible to do without unfairness.

Heaven is almost certainly not real, and I didn’t mention that. I only mentioned God as as example of something “greater” than man. I did not say God or heaven was real.

I’ll go one further, I wouldn’t trust any human being to make that decision.

And you get to determine who is “steadfastly evil”?

I think it’s wrong to knowingly inflict suffering in others in any capacity.

When you remember that in order to even get the death penalty, you have to be such a horrible person that you’re pretty much no longer human

This is just absolutely not true. Throughout history countless innocent people have been executed not because of the facts, but because they were unable to defend themselves against the accusations. Meanwhile, many wealthy or powerful people have been guilty but never even charged with a crime. In fact, the nature of a crime has almost zero correlation with the sentence.

If you truly believe that all humans are equal then you must also believe that it is impossible for one to stand in judgment of another. I believe that killing is wrong because it is one human standing in judgement of another. Society has a duty to protect its members, but judgement and the concept of “punishment” is something that should be left to God.

Ah ok I got it thanks, yes the goal is to replace the apps on my TV as seamlessly as possible.

KDE bigscreen says it supports CEC but there is no official release yet. I still might give it a shot. I actually tried the Android TV you linked to (which also says it supports CEC) but it doesn’t work. I know the hardware supports it because Libelec was seamless.

You’re saying wayland is an interface that works with tv remotes and hdmi-cec? I looked it up and it seems to be not that.

I mentioned in the post that I did try LibreELEC but the Plex plugin is very buggy and there is no functioning youtube plugin.

Thanks, I found a LineageOS build of Android TV I’m currently trying to get it up and running. CEC seems like it might be broken however which would sadly be a dealbreaker.

Thanks yes I found one here: https://konstakang.com/devices/rpi5/LineageOS22-ATV/

Oh cool, thanks, it works with hdmi-cec? Android is not an issue exactly, I basically just want something to replace my TV “apps” but without ads and more private.

EDIT: did not fully read the comment. I have a raspbnerry pi.