Hey guys one of the things I miss about reddit is communities like r/Conservative or r/conspiracy, not because I agree with really anything they say there, but because it’s a challenge for me.
It’s really easy to say “no you’re dumb and wrong”, but I like going down rabbit holes so I will take the bat shit insane stuff they say and find actual sources to refute them. I know it won’t actually change any minds but it’s fun for me.
I know theres @conservative@lemm.ee but that is basically just non-conservatives making fun of conservatives. And I have not been able to find any good conspiracy theory communities on Lemmy at all.
Any advice?
There’s probably some, but keep in mind that your instance has to be federated with them and lemmy.world generally defederates a lot of the more extreme instances (plus a few benign but potentially illegal instances, since the admins don’t want legal trouble.)
That said, Lemmy historically is rather extreme “left” (if you can call it that lol) so much so that the .ml of lemmy.ml stands for Marxist-Leninst. That starting point kinda makes the rest of us the conservatives of the community.
If you want to feel challenged, look into who we defederate from. Hexbear, lemmygrad, beehaw, etc. I’m sure those rabbit holes will be new to you, although heaven help you lol
You can definitely call Marxism and Anarchism Left. Leftism starts at anti-Capitalism, and both Marxism and Anarchism make up the largest and most significant umbrellas of Leftism.
It makes the rest of us the liberals, certainly. But a lot of the turf battles between .world and .ml tend to be on US political orthodoxy running up against any other country’s reported histories. People getting sucked back into the argument over whether the Hungarian Revolt of 1956 was worth defending, for instance, is the baseline for what defines a “Tankie” (evil Khruschevist authoritarian villains) versus “A rational centrist” (not all CIA-backed color revolutions are bad, people!)
So it’s less a question of right versus left and more a question of nationalism versus internationalism.
One of the benefits of .world is that admins generally don’t bother outright banning anyone for their political views, even when they’re taken as “extreme”. You can head over to these other sites, but don’t expect to post very long before you’re given the boot.
Admittedly, Reddit’s political subs were much the same. Easiest thing in the world is to say something on a political sub of any flavor that will get you banned, whether its /r/progressive or /r/libertarian. If that’s the kind of sub someone is looking for…
But I don’t really see them as challenging so much as insular. Structurally closed communities where appealing to the whims of the moderators is more important than any actual ideological tenant.
Removed by mod
That’s funnier than it is ironic and tragic, lol.
I had nothing to do with that, but this made me laugh
I’d like to believe it was deleted as a bit, and not just because whoever read it felt it intensely, lol. (Also, déjà vu! I feel compelled by whatever is left of my superstition to call them out as they happen.)