I’m not going to deal with this, unsubscribing. I recommend everyone else to do the same, we can’t let them get away with this. You can instead donate to an actually good news source, such as ProPublica. And nyt has a bunch of controversies, listed here. I can’t support this with a clear conscience.

  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
    3·
    5 days ago

    They never corrected their bs claims about murdered babies and systematic rape on Oct 7. Neither of these is true. Mouthpiece for zionist propaganda. That’s when I lost all trust in them.

    I still have a subscription, which I recalled when I was forced to sign in to read an article last night. Now, I’m putting some thought into whether the balance of bullshit vs information has tipped too much.

    The ads don’t get me because of multiple ad-blockers, but I agree that paying for an online sub should nullify them. It’s not like it costs anything to publish on the web vs printing an actual paper. Sure, servers and bandwidth, but for one article to a person paying for a subscription? Unjustifiable to me. Fuck capitalism. It’s destroy[ing/ed] everything.

      • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
        21·
        5 days ago

        Sure, if you want me to do your homework for you, listen to all the episodes of these podcasts since Oct 7: Chapo Traphouse, TrueAnon, Bad Faith.

        Wait, you surely don’t have time to do that. Let me provide a similar UN finding, to be in kind with yours:

        In May 22 the Associated Press published a report detailing two false accounts of sexual and gender-based violence on October 7.[139] One of the accounts was given by Yossi Landau, a longtime volunteer for the ultra-orthodox ZAKA paramedic and rescue group. Landau claimed that as he was working in Kibbutz Be’eri, he found a pregnant woman lying on the floor with her fetus stil attached to the umbilicated cord and removed from her body.[139] The AP reports that Landau then “went on to tell the story to journalists and was cited in outlets around the world.”[139] ZAKA spokesperson Moti Bukjin said it took some time before they realized Landau’s account was not true, and they told him to stop repeating it, however he continued to do so as he remains convinced it is true. The United Nations also confirmed Landau’s account is false.[139] Along with other first responders, Landau also told journalists he had seen beheaded children and babies. However, the AP notes that “No convincing evidence had been publicized to back up that claim, and it was debunked by Haaretz and other major media outlets.”[139]

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_and_gender-based_violence_in_the_7_October_Hamas-led_attack_on_Israel#Controversies

        I’m not suggesting that there was no sexual violence. I’m stating that the NYT ran bullshit stories and didn’t retract them.

        • MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world
          3·
          5 days ago

          Ok so because two incidents of the hundreds of accounts are not true means that all of the claims are untrue? The UN special envoy mentions substantially more than two.

          Podcasts are trash resources for things like this as too many are not actually run by real experts on the subject at hand. The three you list are no exception.

          You are engaging in rape denialism because you don’t like Israel or Palestine and that’s messed up. The report I link documents SA in both nations in this war.

          • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
            1·
            5 days ago

            I am pointing to bad journalism and lies from the Israeli state. Both must be called out because both are unacceptable.

            • MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world
              2·
              5 days ago

              Except the rapes weren’t lies. That’s what my link demonstrates.

              I don’t believe you should engage in denying that the rapes happened and then declare what you think is morally acceptable. You’re denying that all tge other rape happened in. your initial comment that I replied to ffs

              • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
                1·
                4 days ago

                Ok, you’re clearly on the side of Israel over accuracy. I called out specific bullshit from the Israeli state and the NYT. You have now twice tried to suggest that I denied any sexual assault. Nope. I called bullshit on decapitated babies and systematic sexual assault during the attack. Both have been proven to be lies. I never said no one was raped. Stop trying to misconstrue my words and admit that you’re not arguing in good faith.

                • MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world
                  1·
                  4 days ago

                  No I believe the UN special envoy that looked into assault on both sides who noted there was assaults on both sides. I gave you a link to an article about her report.

                  You have denied assault several times now. The initial comment I replied to was you denying that the rapes happened. You keep equivocating on this.