• Canonical_Warlock@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 months ago

    Don’t forget that most highschools also dropped any trades oriented classes too. So now if you want a decently paying career without a college degree then too fucking bad. They’re trying to eliminate any alternative to the college debt shackle to make their worker drones more easy to manipulate and abuse.

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      6 months ago

      So now if you want a decently paying career without a college degree then too fucking bad.

      Go through college, fuck it up.

      Go to job center.

      “We want this specific blue collar job”

      How do I get it

      “Know the union guy or pay for a certification course”

      Thanks fuckhead

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      6 months ago

      If my school system was typical, and I have no reason to believe it wasn’t, what happened was that individual high schools dropped their trades oriented classes but the school system opened a dedicated vocational/“tech” high school. That means in order to take any such classes you’d have to completely switch schools, or at least drive there halfway through the school day or something. So, on top of having to arrange your own transportation instead of taking the school bus, you’d probably also have schedule conflicts and be forced to choose between the vocational classes and things like gifted/AP academic classes. And finally, you would also be disincentivized against that (at least in my social circle) by the stigma that only the stupid kids who couldn’t hack the normal curriculum, troublemakers, and teen moms would go to an ‘alternative’ school (which was wrong in retrospect, of course, but the key phrase is “in retrospect”).

      To add insult to injury, my AP physics class was held in the classroom that used to be for the school’s shop class. In addition to a whole bunch of intriguing CNC equipment and other neat science/engineering doodads scattered around the back and sides of the classroom, there was a huge attached storage room that had all the traditional woodworking power tools. And we never had the opportunity to use fucking any of it!

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      6 months ago

      college debt shackle to make their worker drones more easy to manipulate and abuse.

      They have a better one now. H1-Bs. Do what the boss says or you get fucking deported.

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      6 months ago

      Are tech schools still a thing?

      The tech schools from my area offered trade focused education paths like plumbing, drafting, auto, hairdressing, and few others.

      So you could basically go to them, skip college, and go right into a trade.

      I know quite a few people who did that and they seem to be doing okay now.

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        6 months ago

        Not sure, but shop classes, carpentry, electrical/plumbing, mechanic, and those such classes were being cut when I was in highschool back in the mid 2000s. I think classes like that are usually what would open kids up to seeing that they may enjoy those trades.

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          I went to HS early/mid 00s, and for my school district of 5 highschools, there was one career center. That’s where they put shop and cosmetology and graphic design (and ASL for some reason?) I dropped band in my senior year. I wasn’t that great, hated the marching part especially. I wanted to do graphic design (not that great at it either, come to find out!). A band director literally pulled me aside one day, urging me to rethink my choice. That career center was ‘for kids who weren’t college bound.’ I guess it couldn’t help me as much as he thought band could have? 🤦‍♀️

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            6 months ago

            Our school cut our web-design and a couple programing courses in 2007 (java included) but kept Radio Broadcasting. Fucking joke of a decision. (Not just one course either, like they wanted to be a “magnet” school for radio broadcasting… so multiple)

            Sidenote to bitch: they decided to keep visual basic as a course when chopping java. Not a C class prior or after, just said fuck it to programing 🤷