• xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    9 hours ago

    Democracy has existed far longer than fascism has… the earliest fascist movements weren’t until the 1910s, while the earliest recorded democracy was around 508 BC, with the earliest recorded usage of the term in the 430s BC. You’re wrong by a margin of millennia

    My dear god, this is history fundamentals. And the sheer balls you’ve got to have to be that rude while being just this severely wrong is obscene.

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      Democracy has existed far longer than fascism has…

      And? Are you so utterly brain-addled as to believe that hierarchical violence was invented in the 20th century?

      the earliest fascist movements weren’t until the 1910s,

      Oh, right… for a minute there I almost forgot that liberals only call it “fascism” when the victims are white.

      while the earliest recorded democracy was around 508 BC

      So it was invented all that time ago, and you STILL don’t have the foggiest idea what it actually is, eh?

      That tracks, liberal.

      My dear god, this is history fundamentals.

      Again. How the fuck do you liberals get through the day with all this foaming, nuclear-level incoherence bouncing around inside your heads?

      Seriously - I’d like to know.

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        And? Are you so utterly brain-addled as to believe that hierarchical violence was invented in the 20th century?

        You’re the one who said that democracy was invented as a measure against fascism. Angrily throwing a lot of words around doesn’t automatically result in a coherent argument.

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          You’re the one who said that democracy was invented as a measure against fascism.

          Prove it.

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        believe that hierarchical violence was invented in the 20th century

        Well that’s just not what I said - you specifically said fascism, which was invented in the 20th century. It has more specific characteristics than just hierarchical violence; ethno-nationalism, militarisation of the state, flexible suppression of opposition and centralised autocracy.

        Just because you’re mad about being corrected doesn’t mean you need to be a dick about it.

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          you specifically said fascism

          No I did not, genius. What you call “fascism” is merely the specific form that hierarchical violence takes in the liberal nation state.

          Is something beginning to gel here for you?

          which was invented in the 20th century.

          Oh, really? Why doesn’t all the mass-murder perpetrated by the liberal order in the colonised world count as “fascism” to you, Clyde?

          Where the victims not white enough for you?

          ethno-nationalism, militarisation of the state, flexible suppression of opposition and centralised autocracy.

          Oh. So… bog-standard hierarchical violence, then?

          Just because you’re

          Again. How the fuck do you liberals get through the day with all this foaming, nuclear-level incoherence bouncing around inside your heads?

          Seriously - I’d STILL like to know.