Because “white” is a category of exclusion, defined by being not not-white. It is vague and historically flexible - it may or may not include Italians, Spaniards, Irish, Greeks or Poles depending on who you ask and where & when you happen to be at the time of asking.
Amusingly, quite a lot of people still excuse Armenians and Azerbaijani people, despite them literally living in the Caucasusn and being the definition of Caucasian
Russians and Germans historically tend to exclude each ofher.
I started using non-whites as a broad category of every race / ethnicity that is excluded by the US mainstream, specifically the transnational white power movement.
While technically correct, saying it’s a category of exclusion kind of makes it sound negative, when it’s exclusive quality is basically defined by privilege. Whether Italians, Spaniards, Irish, Greeks, or Poles counts basically entirely depends on how normalized and privileged they are in any given greater subsect.
Except this is a source of pride for the Irish. It was first coined for the Irish immigrant soldiers who fought for the Union during the Civil War in what became called the Irish Brigade.
There’s that picture of an American Indian man wearing a “Caucasians” shirt floating around the internet, and every time I see it I can’t help but laugh. Edit yeah someone has already posted it in this thread.
I feel underrepresented, why don’t white dudes have an offensive caricature/stereotype? =(
You know you had to do it to 'em
I don’t understand.
We got one!
Because “white” is a category of exclusion, defined by being not not-white. It is vague and historically flexible - it may or may not include Italians, Spaniards, Irish, Greeks or Poles depending on who you ask and where & when you happen to be at the time of asking.
Amusingly, quite a lot of people still excuse Armenians and Azerbaijani people, despite them literally living in the Caucasusn and being the definition of Caucasian
Also may not include Latin Americans, Slavs or mixed race people
Russians and Germans historically tend to exclude each ofher.
I started using non-whites as a broad category of every race / ethnicity that is excluded by the US mainstream, specifically the transnational white power movement.
While technically correct, saying it’s a category of exclusion kind of makes it sound negative, when it’s exclusive quality is basically defined by privilege. Whether Italians, Spaniards, Irish, Greeks, or Poles counts basically entirely depends on how normalized and privileged they are in any given greater subsect.
That makes a lot of sense! I’ve wondered why sometimes white just feels like a non-race
Depends on your traditional definition of “white” but Notre Dame has the “Fighting Irish” as mentioned by @HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com
Except this is a source of pride for the Irish. It was first coined for the Irish immigrant soldiers who fought for the Union during the Civil War in what became called the Irish Brigade.
Ooh, this is a pretty good one
There’s that picture of an American Indian man wearing a “Caucasians” shirt floating around the internet, and every time I see it I can’t help but laugh. Edit yeah someone has already posted it in this thread.
Also, do the Minnesota Vikings count?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracker_(food)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Crackers
(But @NaibofTabr has the real answer.)