What do you call indescrimate shooting at civilians in the hope to kill terrorists, the systematic displacement of civilians, the cutting off of crucial infrastructure and aid?
What terrorists? Israel legally speaking Israel does not have the right to defend itself. Oct 7 was a success MILITARY operation and no, mass rape and the other atrocity propaganda did not happen.
They may not have done the biggest atrocities that were rumored, but they still purposefully kidnapped civilians, which I’m pretty sure is a war crime.
I’m pro-Palestine, I think what Israel is doing in Gaza is definitely a genocide, but seriously, what do you think would happen from a geopolitical standpoint if Biden said “yeah, I think the ICC is right, please stop this genocide Bibi”? The US can’t afford to lose Israel as an ally so it needs to be subtle.
This is a sick way of thinking, that we would have allies in spite of them committing genocide, but neither is it new territory for the US. That said, what is the ‘realpolitik’ reason that we “can’t afford to lose Israel as an ally”?
Seriously, we already left Saudi Arabia get away with chopping up a journalist for a US publication for that reason. And have a base in Iraq. And ostensibly Pakistan is our ally. And Turkey is in NATO. How many allies do we need in that area? And why do they all have to be terrible?
Israel and the US share a lot of Intel and military technologies.
I’m not saying that the US shouldn’t ditch Israel - they should, but they need to undo a few ties first. People here expect it done in a few weeks and that won’t happen.
The US can’t afford to lose Israel as an ally so it needs to be subtle.
Israel is not in any way a critical US ally. Their influence in the region is basically non-existent and their inclusion in our various Middle Eastern adventures would do more harm than good so they’re never asked. They’re a client state heavily dependent on US arms and diplomatic protection, not some highly desirable ally we need to carefully court.
This is not true. Israel is most certainly America’s crucial ally. Are American politicians funneling money into Israel (more so than any other country in history even ukraine) just for fun?
What do you call indescrimate shooting at civilians in the hope to kill terrorists, the systematic displacement of civilians, the cutting off of crucial infrastructure and aid?
I really would love to ask Biden that.
You’re nice saying they hope to shoot terrorist in the process…
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Many different u.s. interventions over the years.
What terrorists? Israel legally speaking Israel does not have the right to defend itself. Oct 7 was a success MILITARY operation and no, mass rape and the other atrocity propaganda did not happen.
They may not have done the biggest atrocities that were rumored, but they still purposefully kidnapped civilians, which I’m pretty sure is a war crime.
A MILITARY operation on a fucking festival and a kibbutz?
I’m pro-Palestine, I think what Israel is doing in Gaza is definitely a genocide, but seriously, what do you think would happen from a geopolitical standpoint if Biden said “yeah, I think the ICC is right, please stop this genocide Bibi”? The US can’t afford to lose Israel as an ally so it needs to be subtle.
This is a sick way of thinking, that we would have allies in spite of them committing genocide, but neither is it new territory for the US. That said, what is the ‘realpolitik’ reason that we “can’t afford to lose Israel as an ally”?
Seriously, we already left Saudi Arabia get away with chopping up a journalist for a US publication for that reason. And have a base in Iraq. And ostensibly Pakistan is our ally. And Turkey is in NATO. How many allies do we need in that area? And why do they all have to be terrible?
What’s the reason why the US can’t afford to lose Israel?
Israel and the US share a lot of Intel and military technologies.
I’m not saying that the US shouldn’t ditch Israel - they should, but they need to undo a few ties first. People here expect it done in a few weeks and that won’t happen.
The current US president has answered this very clearly.
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Counterpoint: it’s an election year and Biden does not want to lose the Jewish Dem vote.
The system is fucked.
That too
Israel is not in any way a critical US ally. Their influence in the region is basically non-existent and their inclusion in our various Middle Eastern adventures would do more harm than good so they’re never asked. They’re a client state heavily dependent on US arms and diplomatic protection, not some highly desirable ally we need to carefully court.
This is not true. Israel is most certainly America’s crucial ally. Are American politicians funneling money into Israel (more so than any other country in history even ukraine) just for fun?