• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    I’m so glad they finally did it because we’ll finally be able to put the narrative that Ukraine is losing because additional 61 billions wasn’t allocated to bed.

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      8 months ago

      It will also destroy the last credibility US financial system have, piss off Russian capitalists and make them invest in the west even less. Win/win/win.

      Worse part is that will give maidan regime some more time to push even more Ukrainians into the grinder.

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        Russia’s GDP is dwarfed by the West. If Russian investors weren’t put off by having assets frozen when Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022, they’re unlikely to care about some more weapons. After all, the Russian people have seen many years of conflict. The rich are going to care about their hoards, not about the “special military operation.”

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            8 months ago

            I don’t see where the question comes from. There are other driving forces in Russia behind the Ukraine War.

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          The Russian capitalists did hate this. This war is incredibly unpopular among Russian capitalists.

          What PolandIsAStateOfMind is saying is that among those who were on the west’s side while still living within the Russian economic system, more than before will flip to embracing Russian finance, because their money will be irretrievable lost to western thievery. As long as the money hasn’t been spent, there’s a possibility that they’ll stick to liberal principles of private property. That means returning the money after the war. It’s naïve because the west already stole Afghanistan’s money as retaliation for Afghanistan winning the war against the USA.

          But some Russian capitalists might’ve been holding out upon the belief that the west’s racism was why they would steal Afghanistan’s money, but not do the same to white and west-worshipping capitalists oppressed by Russia’s state-oriented actions.

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          If Russian investors weren’t put off by having assets frozen when Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022

          They already were, why they would even put more money there when they are getting frozen, but as long as their funds are only frozen, they could still have hope that the entire issue gonna get resolved one day and they will get it back. If the money get confiscated, that’s entire another situation.

          Russia’s GDP is dwarfed by the West

          Muh GDP!

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      8 months ago

      Two years, hundreds of thousands of casualties, tens of thousands of equipment losses and burning through Russia’s future generation and financial reserve

      ‘Winning’.

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        Imagine still guzzling propaganda uncritically after two whole years. If any of this was true, Russia would’ve collapsed long ago as the west was hoping.

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            Ah yes, Russian propaganda as reported by mainstream western media. Those Putler puppets have now infiltrated once respected publications like NYT and WSJ. 🤡

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              Visually confirming thousands of destroyed pieces of equipment while avoiding duplicates is hard and mistakes will be made. They’re corrected as they’re found.

              You’re happily felching Kremlin propaganda.

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                Yes, visually confirming the same pieces of equipment over to convince gullible people of what they already want to believe. My favorite part about oryx is how they stopped reporting losses once Ukraine ran out of old Soviet equipment that they couldn’t pass off as Russian losses. All of a sudden when Ukraine started using primarily western equipment, oryx decided it was time to step away. 😂

                If these figures had any basis in reality, Russia would’ve collapsed a long time ago. The fact that you genuinely believe that Russia lost tens of thousands of pieces of military hardware along with the trained troops that operated them, and it’s still somehow winning shows that you’re utterly incapable of rational thought.

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                  Russia had the equipment (and a lot more) to lose. It’s quite realistic.

                  How you can consider a two year war where none of the original goals have been met a success is beyond me.

                  Russia has paid an enormous cost for very little in the way of gains. They haven’t even regained the land they retreated from in 2022.

                  But by all means. Keep cheering on Putin sending his people into a meat grinder in his pathetic 20th century war of conquest.

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                    Russia had the equipment (and a lot more) to lose. It’s quite realistic.

                    We’re talking about manpower here. It literally takes years to train an effective tank crew for example. If Russia was losing troops and equipment at the rate you imagine, then they’d be out of trained soldiers real fast.

                    How you can consider a two year war where none of the original goals have been met a success is beyond me.

                    What goals weren’t met, please cite goals that Russia set that aren’t being met.

                    But by all means. Keep cheering on Putin sending his people into a meat grinder in his pathetic 20th century war of conquest.

                    By all means keep believing nonsense if that helps you cope.