• Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    Yes? What do you think challenging yourself is?

    Answer my points on your nationalist brainworms being completely at odds with any assessment of yourself as “socialist” at the very least.

    • 𝔊𝔦𝔫𝔧𝔲𝔱𝔰𝔲@lemmy.zip
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      Lol, chill TF out. I have much better things to do than spend hours arguing with weirdos on Lemmy.

      And again, all I have done is said that I support Ukraine. I also happen to be a socialist. Why is that so hard for you to wrap your head around?

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        And again, all I have done is said that I support Ukraine. I also happen to be a socialist. Why is that so hard for you to wrap your head around?

        Because you don’t support the people, you support the bourgeois state and your position boils down to “I am willing to kill hundreds of thousands of people to protect it.”

        This is not socialist ideology. This is first and foremost nationalism, which variant of it I am as yet uncertain as you’ve said nothing about what your “socialism” entails. I am unable to assess whether you’re a nazi or a plain old liberal that pretends to be a socialist by saying you like welfare while still completely and totally supporting capitalism and liberal institutional design to maintain the bourgeoisie as the ruling class. The german gothic aesthetic you choose for your username certainly doesn’t help the suspicions I have over what you really are though, literally retvrn.

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          I have never seen one of these alleged “socialists” engage on this point. I would really like to see their rationale, and it’s really frustrating that none of them will respond.

          They just dance around and repeat that they’re a “socialist”, but never point to a single socialist principle that informs their perspective

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            They never engage with it because they know damn well that they have no excuse. Rather than engage in something that they are completely caught out on they resort to non-engagement.

            Ironically this strategy of online rhetoric is literally in the handbook from the 77th brigade that was leaked, British military psyops. However I suspect these people just learned it naturally from many bad experiences with how that went for them. This picture from their webpage makes me laugh every time because it’s literally fedposting :

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            You know, thinking about it, i don’t think i have even seen a self-described “socialist” even bring up theorists or figureheads that they say influenced them. At most, it’ll be something like “someone told me they read Chomsky and they gave a quote that sounded pretty good” or “Bernie/AOC/The Squad say some pretty good things and i agree with them”. I don’t think i’ve ever seen someone talk about Kautsky or Bernstein or any of the other reformists.

        • 𝔊𝔦𝔫𝔧𝔲𝔱𝔰𝔲@lemmy.zip
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          The german gothic aesthetic you choose for your username certainly doesn’t help the suspicions I have over what you really are though, literally retvrn.

          your schizo is showing

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        Lol, chill TF out. I have much better things to do than spend hours arguing with weirdos on Lemmy.

        Then why have you spent hours arguing with weirdos on Lemmy?

        Also you’ve done much more than that. You’ve slung out accusations of being Kremlin propagandists, among a lot of other stuff.

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        Why is that so hard for you to wrap your head around?

        Because you were defending the US revolution to own more slaves and commit more genocide elsewhere in the thread, which isn’t a particularly socialist position.

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        LIB i don’t have time to engage in any actual points with people on Lemmy.

        I only have time to bait an entire community so i can dissmiss them as weirdos for commenting on my bait post