This community is housed on an instance run by two trans women, focused on the needs of the queer and gender diverse community.

We allowed 196 here because we were promised the community is queer and trans inclusive.

If you’re here it’s because you’re aggressively supportive of trans folk. Not middle of the ground, not “just asking questions”.

If your response to that is, “yes, but…” then this isn’t the instance for you, and by extension, this isn’t the community for you.

tl;dr - Unambiguous support and inclusion, or fuck off somewhere else.

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Edit - I changed the phrase "aggressive support to “unambiguous support”, as there was some confusion over the intent behind my previous phrasing.

    • detectivesniffles@lemmy.caEnglish
      18·
      1 year ago

      WHATS THAT SORRY I CANT HEAR YOU IM CRANKING THE HOG RIGHT NOW TRANSPHOBES GTFO (DISRESPECTFULLY) 🏳️‍⚧️

    • kopper [they/them]@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      after seeing this for a brief moment i forgot lemmy supported headings in markdown and assumed it started supporting MFM

      i’ve been spending too much time on calckey firefish

    • Unmarketable Plushie@pawb.social
      5·
      1 year ago

      One of the mods made a post about how this comment being really creepy about trans men’s bodies somehow wasn’t transphobic and then deleted it after people started calling them out lol

      • LeylaaLovee@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        3·
        1 year ago

        Thank you for providing good context on this thread. The original comment was ass, but not important overall. If the mod hadn’t decided to explicitly defend it, this wouldn’t even be a conversation. This entire discourse would have been avoided if it wasn’t for a shitty mod post.

      • BraBraBra@lemmy.world
        0·
        1 year ago

        The guy said he wasn’t into dicks and that it would be weird to like something about his partner that they would want gone and dislike. That’s not transphobic. It honestly bonkers that people find that to be transphobic.

    • persolb@lemmy.mlEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      Honestly I didn’t realize this was a trans community. I thought ‘196’ was just some random number like the ‘4’ in 4chan. 196 just had good content. The fact it’s inclusive is just a bonus.

      • Yulia@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        It’s not a trans community per se, it’s more of a more trans-friendly shitposting community. Like, I think, even now majority of posters aren’t trans. And majority of content is not trans-themed, it’s not traa. It’s a good place if you don’t want to see only trans-themed memes, but also don’t want to see transphobia

      • DrQuint@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        That’s partially to blame for all 196 communities having this weird “if you know you know” approach to writing their mission statement and rules. I’ve seen numerous people ask wth is 196 because of how vague the communities they saw were.

        But, particularly about the social politics, here’s also the thing I think. Trans rights are human rights. Communities fall under two categories: Welcoming to trans people, versus inherently evil. So I don’t think that a community is pro-trans should ever have to be stated. It should be assume, and whoever has a problem with it should go fuck off from society, Satan has a place for them.

      • Ada@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        There was some transphobia that came crawling out like usually happens when a trans topic starts getting active

        That is what prompted this post. It happens every single time trans stuff comes up. There is no space for it here.

        • Juno@beehaw.orgEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          I was thinking about this in the context of a conversation I was privy to recently boiled down it was basically “I don’t have a problem with trans people But…sexually assaulting kids is bad But…teaching sexual orientation to 3 year Olds is bad”

          I don’t want to have to feel like I need to “just leave”

          • Ada@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPEnglish
            3·
            1 year ago

            Yes, I’m aware. You can see the list here https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/modlog?page=1&userId=170858

            They were removed, because a meme community on a trans run instance isn’t the place for a discussion on the specifics of why you don’t want to fuck trans people.

            We hear that enough, every day, in every place we look online. We don’t need it here too.

            Was the post transphobic? That depends on who you ask, but either way, what it wasn’t is “unambiguously supportive”

            It’s also worth pointing out that those posts were not the trigger for this thread

            • Zymi@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
              3·
              1 year ago

              a meme community on a trans run instance isn’t the place for a discussion on the specifics of why you don’t want to fuck trans people.

              I really wish more people got this

        • LeylaaLovee@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          0·
          1 year ago

          It seems very “chaser” to me. In other comments, the poster mentioned how he was attracted to “post op trans women and pre op trans men”. Grouping those two demographics together in this way will never be seen as not chaser.

            • LeylaaLovee@lemmy.blahaj.zone
              1·
              1 year ago

              Someone who fetishizes trans people. You find trans people hot? That’s totally fine, you can have preferences. But grouping post op trans women and pre op trans men sexually is saying that they’re being viewed as women regardless of their identity.

              If you wanna fuck a trans person, it should be because you’re attracted to them. Maybe you like boobs and penis together and that’s fine. Maybe you like a masculine chest and a vagina. You can be attracted to a certain intersection, even if that intersection is a straight one. But fucking them because they’re trans and exotic is chasing. If you like women, fuck trans women. If you like men, fuck trans men. But don’t just randomly flip them around like there’s no difference to you.

    • Lemdee@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      Can you see my reply? I’m on lemmy.world and I thought it was still defederated from Beehaw so I shouldn’t be able to see your comment O_o (I’m used to being more active on my beehaw account so using my lemmy.world account threw me off, disregard this lol)

      P.S. Yay trans rights and having a pro-trans meme space 😄

      • mozingo@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        Being defederated just means you can’t see new posts on beehaw communities and they can’t see your communities at all. If your instance and beehaw are both federated with a third instance, like the one this community is on, then you’ll still be able to see comments by beehaw users on that instance.

        • Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social
          2·
          1 year ago

          Let me just make sure I got this right

          Dee is on lemmy.world

          Zoop is on beehaw

          This thread is on lemmy.blahaj.zone

          So Dee and Zoop can see each other’s comments since neither lemmy.world nor beehaw is defederated from blahaj.zone?

          It’s like a border state or something

          • Lemdee@lemmy.world
            1·
            1 year ago

            I can see Zoop’s comment, but Zoop can’t see mine. Because beehaw is defederated from lemmy.world but lemmy.world has not chosen to defederate from beehaw so it still gets the comments from beehaw users.

            Actually because all these replies are to my lemmy.world account Zoop can’t see this entire exchange, and I can’t see it on my beehaw account either. I just had a brain fart.

        • Lemdee@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          I’m not sure about that. I think it might be a glitch or something because I never see beehaw comments on lemmy.world and never see lemmy.world comments on my beehaw account. Like, I can’t see the comment I made on this account from my beehaw account.

          Just thought it was odd.

          I was just being dumb, Monzingo is right.

  • UnculturedSwine@lemmy.worldEnglish
    7·
    1 year ago

    This is what the fediverse was created for. Casual transphobia doesn’t need to be permitted and I fully support that.

  • ombremad@kbin.social
    7·
    1 year ago

    Thank you so much. We need that more than anything right now — where transphobic content tends to be the default on the web.

    If this is the time to go full aggressive for our rights, count me in!

    (And if you’re here to passive-aggressively complain about how you « don’t care about people’s sexuality » and making everyone notice you’re leaving — let me be very active-aggressive in saying « good fucking riddance » to you.)

  • toadstorm@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    1 year ago

    i am old and cis but trans shitposters are the best shitposters, this is indisputable. you have my support

  • PersnickityPenguin@lemm.eeEnglish
    3·
    1 year ago

    Damn straight queer.

    I’m just your run-of-the-mill white cismale dude, but I know several trans people in real life including an old friend of mine and a 7-year-old kid across the street from me. Everyone deserves respect and dignity of life.

    • tetraodon@feddit.itEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      Everyone deserves respect and dignity of life.

      That’s it. Nothing to add.

      Signed: another run-of-the-mill cismale dude

  • Holzkohlen@feddit.deEnglish
    2·
    1 year ago

    Damn straight. Us queers need to stand together and there can be no god damn LGBTQ+ without the flippin T.

  • cmat273@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    2·
    1 year ago

    Hi! Trans person here. Your heart is in the right place, but this post is poorly written. You haven’t even given examples of how this is currently/could be applied. Some people are just that uneducated about trans people. If they’re leading questions that invalidate us, sure. But otherwise what’s the harm? For 196 there’s no reason to ask about that stuff but the whole instance?? Your call in the end but I can think of a few ways this could go bad just from prior experience in other communities.