• saltesc@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Random unrelated question, but okay…

    As everyone knows, the Nazi party was ultra nationalist. However, like every other country involved in the war, it had socialist values.

    Hitler preached class warfare, agitating the working class to resist “exploitation” by capitalists , particularly Jewish capitalists, of course. Their programs called for the nationalization of education, health care, transportation, and other major industries. They instituted and vigorously enforced a strict gun control regimen. They encouraged pornography, illegitimacy, and abortion, and they denounced Christians as right-wing fanatics.

    And to quote Hitler himself on the matter…

    “We are socialists. We are the enemies of today’s capitalist system of exploitation … and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”

    Though, I think it goes without saying that was all in effort of totalitarianism.

    Despite being anti-Marxist and fighting the uprising of communism as well, an ultra nationalist party is going to have socialist values. A big part of nationalism is that your “legitimate” nationals benefit first and foremost without the exploitation of outsider nations, their companies, and their people—hence all the racism and anti-Semitism.

    I think maybe you have your own idea of what socialism is and can’t fathom how it can exist in capitalist, communist, and nationalist environments. Pretty much every country involved in WW2 relied on socialism to have their nations survive, whilst their political motives were entirely contrasted.

    But this is entirely unrelated to what we were talking about. Maybe you know ‘Socialist’ was in the Nazi Party name, but because you don’t know why, you thought it’d be a “Got 'em!” moment. Who knows what that brain’s thinking at this point.

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      7 months ago

      Yeah I was clearly making fun of you for thinking the ccp wasn’t capitalist. Thanks for really hammering my point home by actually believing that the Nazis were socialist lol.

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        7 months ago

        Ah, I see. Workers rights, social welfare, universal healthcare and education systems, disestablishment of capitalist exploitation on citizens, gun control, and women’s freedoms isn’t socialist. Got it 👍

        Thanks for sharing your big brain wisdom with me. Now go tell everyone of this pinicale perspective of yours. The world must know!

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          7 months ago

          I would say murdering all the socialists was the biggest speed bump but what do I know?

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            7 months ago

            I don’t know what you know, but we have an extensive history on this that you can refer to at any time.

            Murdering socialists in no way takes away something’s own socialist values. If you have that fallacious stance, then it must also be true that Nazis couldn’t be Nazis because they purged their own party during the Night of the Long Knives.

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              7 months ago

              Dude I don’t want to have a conversation with you. I was making fun of you for saying stupid shit. You can keep commenting retarded takes as much as you want but I’m done here. Have a great day

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                7 months ago

                Why do you keep replying then? It’s an interesting logic. It’s almost as though your fingers start typing and hitting that Reply button before your brain’s even had a moment to consider what it is you just did and said. Spare yourself the trouble and take it out on a history book instead.