Hi Lemmy,

I’m organising a funeral, and one of the ideas that has come up is for people to write memories on a balloon and let them go. However, I’ve also heard that they often end up in trees etc and are terrible for the environment.

Is there such a thing as environmentally safe balloons? Other suggestions are also welcome.

  • 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬@lemmy.ml
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    9 months ago

    and it might be hard to find these “real/verified” biodegradable balloons

    Also, “biodegradable” often means “in recycling facilities in a controlled environment using special machines and processing” when it comes to “biodegradable plastics” and not “just throw them anywhere and nature will handle it”.

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      Barely related, but a lot of people don’t know as much as they think they know about recycling. That symbol on the bottom of your plastic jugs, jars, etc that looks like the recycling symbol was the result of a campaign to intentionally mislead people into thinking that the containers are recyclable. Those symbols along with the number are identifiers for the types of plastic involved. Different recycling plants are equipped to process different materials, so I’m not saying that no plastic is recyclable, but you’re probably best off just assuming that your plant can’t handle your plastic. Why? Because if they can handle any plastic, it’s probably just one or two of them and you’d need to ask them to be sure, and you’d need to wash away all the food particles and remove labels and adhesive. I’ve heard that failing to do this can contaminate other material which renders that stuff unrecyclable as well, but I’m not sure that’s still true or ever was so don’t @ me on that point lol. I’m also not sure about sorting, but that could be necessary too. And after all that, it’s still very hard to recycle plastic, and you can probably only do it once or twice before it’s not usable anymore.

      So what should we do with our plastic? Easy. Stop buying it. Okay, not so easy, but you can choose aluminum or glass containers instead wherever you have the choice. Any reduction is an improvement. Going a step further, see if you can’t reuse your plastic for something else before disposing. Once you’ve gotten a few uses out of it, then you can go through the process of recycling if it’s possible. I’m no genius for suggesting that, btw. That’s literally just what “reduce, reuse, recycle” is telling you to do. It’s in that order for a reason!

      TED Talk complete. Hopefully most of you already knew this, but this was for the handful of people who didn’t know!

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        Okay, not so easy, but you can choose aluminum or glass containers instead wherever you have the choice.

        That’s the thing, you usually don’t have that choice. Sure, you can often bring your own containers to buy food. You can also use reusable bags for groceries shopping. You also don’t need those stupid tiny plastic bags for vegetables and fruits. But the impact is very low.

        No industry can operate without processing and using plastics and they’re not willing to change because it’s cheaper and easier right now and change would cost them money.

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          You’re completely correct, until enough of us buy other products to impact their bottom line. Scaled up production makes things cheaper per unit, but if demand drops out because we’re buying it less, then their cost per unit goes up. Then they raise prices to make up for it. Eventually alternatives become relatively competitive and then there’s a domino effect of more people jumping off of plastic. At least for some things. We will never get away from plastics entirely, but we’re way more wasteful than we need to be. There aren’t enough systemic incentives for companies to change their production, and there aren’t enough legislators willing to change that, but we can influence it a little bit by voting with our wallets. It’s very low impact, but talking about it in places like this can make the low impact a little bigger and lead to a bigger conversation about the global responsibility of industrialized nations to bear more of the burden because we can afford to. Idk I just don’t want to grow old and tell younger generations that we knew what we were doing was wrong and would hurt them but we just didn’t feel like doing anything about it.

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          I also just hate glass. I broke a jar the other day and thought I’d cleaned it up properly, but no. I’ve been picking nearly invisible pieces of glass out of my foot with tweezers for days. My feet are scratched to shit. Plastic is bad but glass sucks too.

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        9 months ago

        that’s interesting, I’ve never cleaned anything prior to putting it in the recycling bin - I suppose I see that as an issue that the company that’s doing the actual recycling is responsible for. it’s easier for me and if it’s not easy then I wont do it.