• RaoulDook@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    So there’s articles now about her calling them both Chinese and Russian agents for protesting. Nice job, grandma.

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      9 months ago

      Then she doubles back and said she’s actually calling for a cease fire too…

      But what she’s really asking for is a complete surrender of Gaza.

      Like when idiots say the invasion of Ukraine needs to end, so Ukraine needs to surrender.

      If your call for a cease fire is the victim to surrender to the aggressor, that’s not a cease fire, it’s you being on the bad guys side.

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        9 months ago

        Is the article you linked implying that criticism of Israel is just anti-American propaganda? That the people criticizing Israel just don’t know what they’re talking about?

        The article you linked is an article from early November 2023. This article from NPR, published on the same day as the NYT article you linked, talks about Israel invading North Gaza with a force too small to occupy the city. The authors wonder how such a small ground force could be used to hold and control the city.

        As it turns out, the IDF had no plans of holding it. They planned to erase it.

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          9 months ago

          Is the article you linked implying that criticism of Israel is just anti-American propaganda?

          No, but there is a massive pro-Hamas online campaign going on and it’s not difficult to spot the same small handful of talking points being repeated everywhere, which is eerily similar to how for example Russian trolls behaved in the early days of the Russo-Ukrainian war or how Chinese trolls are reacting to any criticism of the Chinese government. Pelosi is very likely reading the NYT and based her remarks on this article or similar reporting.

          The NPR article was too quick to judge the size of IDF forces in Gaza. It mentions only three brigades, which is indeed very little, but this was only the initial spearhead. Contrast these three brigades to the fact that the IDF just recently pulled five brigades out of Gaza for training and rest. I wasn’t able to find out how many brigades are currently deployed in Gaza in total, but it’s not a small force.

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            9 months ago

            Literally in the Israeli Times article you linked:

            We are both killing the terrorists who participated and killing the terrorists who will want to commit terror in the future,” Halevi told troops and commanders of the 5th Reserve Brigade

            This is some Minority Report shit. Israel must have some psychics in their “Precrime” Police devision.

            Like, are we all too desensitized to the insane shit being said that this is somehow normal and ok to just be published without comment in a newspaper?