• PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml
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    10 months ago

    Let the Slippery Slope begin.

    Let’s ban Nazis! “Sure sounds good”

    and Hezbollah! “ok”

    And Hamas! “sure”

    and anyone who criticizes Israel! “well we already do that, so I guess it’s good to make that official policy.”

    and anyone who criticizes allies of Israel! “Wait what?”

    You Fascist anti-semite!

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        10 months ago

        No, because slippery slope is the name of a logical fallacy, not something that actually happens.

        If you made a colour gradient going from blue to green, at what point in that gradient does the transition from blue to green actually happen? It’s impossible to say! It is therefore impossible to tell blue and green apart! That’s the same argument the other comment is making. It suggests that because the transition point between A and B is blurry that something banning A effectively also bans B.

        To quote United States Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart, when asked what the criteria for pornography entails, “I know it when I see it”.

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          Your mistake is thinking the purpose of these laws is to stop “nazis.” It’s not. The purpose of these laws is to provide some legal backing to silence critics of the government. They will never make a law that says you can’t criticize the Government. But they don’t need to, all they need to do is make a law that says supporting terrorism is illegal, then it’s easy to squint and say that agreeing with a terrorist organization is the same as supporting terrorism.

          For example, if the green party of Australia wants to stop coal mining or whatever and ELF blows up a coal mining truck, suddenly the green party of Australia is breaking the law by existing so they have to spend all their effort defending themselves against the law, rather then attempting to ban coal mining.

          That scenario is the purpose of this law, but with governmental support of Israel. Every time a public figure criticizes Israel they have bend over backwards and spend the majority of their time claiming how much they love the Jewish people and definitely aren’t Nazis, and now if they don’t sufficiently prove their non-naziness, they are suddenly breaking the law and now there is another avenue for people who want to silence critics to pursue. It’s not a coincidence that this law was passed on Dec 8th.

          That’s what the slippery slope is, the silencing of dissent, not the specific verbiage of the law.

          For example, ask yourself why https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdistan_Workers'_Party would be be banned under this law?

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        10 months ago

        Nope. Slippery slopes don’t really happen that often in reality. It’s mostly just an argument used by Nazi sympathizers to protest against anti-hate speech measures.

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          10 months ago

          It’s literally happening in this case; notice that these laws also ban anything the Australian government considers a terrorist group, which is an expansive list.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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      I mean, the joke is going to be in the enforcement, as a battalion of Australia’s largest and roundest uniformed fascist shitheads march through the streets breaking windows and swinging at the heads of anyone sporting a Palestinian flag.

      You’re going to have folks with swastika face tattoos explaining why these anti-Zionist activists just need to obey the law.