I would really rather that these were actual examples, and not conspiracy theories. We all have our own unsubstantiated ideas about what shadowy no-gooders are doing, but I’d rather hear about things that are actually happening.

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    Stems from the black book of Communism which counts nazis killed by the Soviets, everyone killed by the nazis in the USSR, unborn children and even more absurd shit like that just to get to that number lmao.

    If we count shit like that, Capitalism has killed billions.

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      Even using their numbers, if the choice is between 100 million people and every single living thing on the planet, communism sounds like a pretty good deal.

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        Comunism always sounds like a pretty good deal. UNFORTUNATELY IT’S LEADERS ARE ALWAYS CORRUPT

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      If we count shit like that, Capitalism has killed billions.

      Only if you don’t adjust for functioning existence lmao.

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        functioning existence isn’t counted for Communism in the Black Book, so it shouldn’t be for Capitalism.

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          I’m sorry, remind me which communist shitholes function better than the average modern capitalist democracy?

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            I’d sure as shit rather live in China than India. I’d rather live in Cuba than Haiti, I’d rather live in Vietnam than Myanmar, I’d rather have lived in the USSR than the vast majority of Africa.

            Turns out, the only capitalist countries that communist countries didn’t do better than are the ones that got wealthy through centuries of brutal colonialism, exploitation, and slavery. Communist countries managed to develop in a fraction of the time, and with a fraction of the human misery, that it took places like the USA and Britain.

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              Ah yes, India, Haiti, and Myanmar. Definitely what people instantly think of when prompted for the average modern capitalist democracy rather than the us, uk, denmark, sweden, norway, germany, netherlands…cherry pick a bit harder and you might start making sense

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                Correct, other than extremely self-absorbed westerners who don’t know that the rest of the world exists and that non-white people are people too.

                Cherry pick a bit harder and you might start making sense

                You’re literally the one demanding that we cherry pick here, man.