• crandlecan@mander.xyz
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    11 months ago

    Horrible plan. Just open up the law for home grown stuff with some clear boundaries

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        11 months ago

        Same reason Germany is failing to do so right now. EU laws and even some UN treaties that need to be circumvented in creative way as they don’t actually allow legalisation.

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          11 months ago

          The un treaties should not be a Problem. Germany could Just ignore them Like canada or leave the treaties and rejoin with a excemption for cannabis. Bolivia did this for Coca leaves.

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            11 months ago

            Do you treat your own contracts the same way? Sign them and then act as if you didn’t? What if other people treat you like that? Sell you a car, grab the money and leave taking the car with them?

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      11 months ago

      Home-grown was already possible. What do you see as the problem with this plan?

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        11 months ago

        Possible in practical terms, but not legal

        It is against the law to grow marijuana and cannabis plants. In cases where no more than 5 plants are grown for personal consumption, the police will generally only seize the plants. If more than 5 plants are found, the Public Prosecution Service will prosecute.

        https://www.government.nl/topics/drugs/toleration-policy-regarding-soft-drugs-and-coffee-shops

        Basically if you have 5 or less plants the cops will probably ignore you unless you’re a dickhead or are annoying neighbors or something like that.

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          11 months ago

          The reason they put this kind of limits is to protect the income (of coming?) companies. Nobody wants pesky people growing their own stuff, but spending taxable money. Even nicer “for everybody” if the initial money comes from lobbying companies paying for the law to be favorable to them.

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            11 months ago

            yeah thats pretty much how illinois did it. the grow there is restricted to people buying a medical use license so they get the monies either way.

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            11 months ago

            Nhaa you’re projecting… It’s been tolerated for a while now and the « companies » are absolutely not being protected so far. As far as I know they can’t legally source their merchandise…

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          11 months ago

          Yeah I mean, that’s the thing with marijuana legislation in the Netherlands in general - it’s not legal in the first place. It would, of course, be preferable if it was actually legal (and this might very well be a step on the road to get there), but yes, in practical terms, there’s not too much impact - whereas this plan addresses an actual problem, i.e. criminality involved with the drug supply of coffee shops.

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            11 months ago

            Yeah my big issues with it are that it funds a lot of gangster bullshit in the country, there’s a lot of tax money that could be benefiting the Netherlands that they’re not getting, and there’s no real control on testing for pesticides and mold.

            The models employed in the US aren’t flawless and a lot of the laws are written by idiots, but there’s a ton of tax money going towards stuff like education in legal states and the requirements for testing for harmful substances are pretty major.

            The state of Colorado alone generated something like $280 million in tax revenue last year of which a great deal goes to education and health care.