Yeah I thought JK Rowling being a bigoted sac of shit was fairly well known so I just assume anyone who’s a fan of her works just doesn’t mind her bigotry and therefore aren’t really worth interacting with. But I suppose there’s people who learn new things every day.
Also, Potterheads is the self applied name for the fans.
This is why the post focuses on her connections to Epstein and white supremacists. They might not care about transphobia, but being an ally of Epstein is broadly seen as bad unless you’re a cultist or a pedophile.
I like her work. It’s a pretty large part of my childhood. I very much oppose her views though and I will not pay for anything that benefits her financially.
I loved Harry Potter. My whole family did. We had arguments over who got to read the new book first when it arrived. We were all deeply, deeply invested in the lore and the stories and the characters. We watched all the movies together. It was one of the few things that the whole family enjoyed. Something we could all share in together.
But no one loved it as much as my Gran. She was the biggest potterhead you have ever met. I have a photo of her dressed up in her Gryffindor colours at Potterworld, grinning like a lunatic with excitement. She bought every version of every book, every paperback, every hard cover, every audiobook. She was crazy about it.
So after the stroke, when she was lying in hospital dying, when she couldn’t speak, could barely move, we went to the hospital every day, and I read Harry Potter to her. And I’d feel her give my hand the faintest squeeze, and see the tiniest twitch of a smile when I got to the best parts.
I cannot describe how precious those memories are to me. They were the last moments I got to share with an absolutely incredible person, and those books were a lifeline in that bleak moment. A source of joy and comfort when we all needed it most. A brief shining light in her last days. So however important those books are to you, believe me, I get it.
And I still walked away from everything to do with that world and those stories, and never looked back, because no matter how much they mean to me, they don’t mean as much as the trans people in my life do.
The books message seems at odds with what she is now. I think her position on trans rights was challenged, and she dug in, and was attacked harder, and she joined those that supported her, and was thrown into extremism. That said it seem she was epstein friendly before all of this, so, wtf.
Voldemort got the giants on his side by promising them equal rights. The end of the book says “and all was well” because Voldemort was defeated, but what about the giants? Why didn’t anyone help the giants?
The giants were genocided by the good guys that first forced them into ghettos and starved them, bombed them regularly, then came in with overwhelming force and killed their civilians, none of that wokery to get in the way like in real world situations where the libs are all like you can’t wipe millions of people off the the face of the earth. /s
I say because she’s apparently buddy buddy with Israel intelligence agent extrodinaire, the great honeypot.
During the American civil war, slavers said if slaves were freed, they’d sit around all day getting drunk instead of working. When Rowling wrote the house elf Winky, Winky was freed and then sat around all day getting drunk on butterbeer. Why did Rowling put pro-slavery propaganda in a children’s book?
ohgosh thus is another one if those… topics where ur not allowed to be a centrist, hm? >v<
i feel its reasonably easy to not know about it…,… maybe that’s just me tho—
EDIT: okay fair… that was being too general, I honestly don’t even read the whole post image and just the header and went like sigh-here we go again… which still very much paints me in a bad light, but oh well im not gonna remove the comment so peeps can see how evil and nefarious I am
on the one hand - damn - transphobia bad obviously, also supporting evil-doers is bad obviously too
but also woa do we really have to pull these topics into media consumption too?.. havent we already declared that theres no moral consumption under capitalism or whatever?..
so like -… gosh, this exact thing happens to me a lot… where both sides make total sense to me, even if I am on “one side”… but acknowledging the “oponents” points is already a bad thing,…
i remember peeps bein really angry about that one potter game— and like… yeah. sure. makes sense to not play it. but like… ubisoft is well known for having common sexual abuse and stuff in their offices, but most peeps still play that companies games…,…,
i didnt play it.,… but I found the whole discussion weirdly inflated… but like, in this case, with Epstine… well thats obviously going way beyond a simple onion 🧅 and… obviously shouldnt be supported and stuff----
Well I think we should be shaming people this much for playing Ubisoft games. And since Hog Leg is the game that caused the stir, that’s the game I’m going to put My time into caring about.
havent we already declared that theres no moral consumption under capitalism or whatever?..
Sure, but there’s degrees of evil. Learning how to paint from Bob Ross on youtube is only a tiny little bit evil. Going on Lemmy to defend Harry Potter is a much bigger evil. I’m talking about shades of grey here. Everything being bad still allows for some things to be worse.
i was under the assumption that this post was - saying even more bad things about a person we already know is bad just for the sake of it, or maybe to fuel more hatred or something… which - it only does the first thing of.,.,.
If you’re tired of hearing about how awful Rowling is, believe me, we’re even more tired of having to talk about it.
But despite everything, she continues to be an incredibly influential voice, especially in British politics, and she also continues to be staggeringly wealthy thanks to the money she makes from the ongoing exploitation of the Harry Potter brand. And she uses that money to directly fund attacks on trans rights. She’s successfully swayed major British supreme court decisions that have had a devastating impact on trans people in the UK, and her influence has been a not insignificant factor in the current British government’s absolutely feckless response to these tragedies.
My neice had to leave the UK just to get healthcare, and now refuses to return because she’s so scared of what that country has become. And she’s one of the lucky ones because her family had the resources to get her out. There are many, many far less privileged people in the UK literally dying from lack of care. And Rowling is doing everything in her power to make it worse.
Yes, I get that we often have to accept that we will consume and enjoy media by people we don’t like. I’m not going to yell at someone for still loving Sandman despite the heinous shit that Gaiman did. But there’s a difference here. Gaiman isn’t leading an army of rabid followers trying to legalize his right to rape people, and throwing millions of dollars at supporting that cause. He’s an awful person and I hope he disappears forever, but the harm is done. The story is out there. Anyone who does even the briefest Google search on the guy is going to know to stay the fuck away.
But with Rowling, even talking about her media without spending a penny on it is still actively supporting the popularity and wealth of a person who is using both to inflict mass carnage on trans people. She is literally costing lives every single day that she continues to be a wealthy and influential figure.
Yeah I thought JK Rowling being a bigoted sac of shit was fairly well known so I just assume anyone who’s a fan of her works just doesn’t mind her bigotry and therefore aren’t really worth interacting with. But I suppose there’s people who learn new things every day.
Also, Potterheads is the self applied name for the fans.
This is why the post focuses on her connections to Epstein and white supremacists. They might not care about transphobia, but being an ally of Epstein is broadly seen as bad unless you’re a cultist or a pedophile.
I like her work. It’s a pretty large part of my childhood. I very much oppose her views though and I will not pay for anything that benefits her financially.
I loved Harry Potter. My whole family did. We had arguments over who got to read the new book first when it arrived. We were all deeply, deeply invested in the lore and the stories and the characters. We watched all the movies together. It was one of the few things that the whole family enjoyed. Something we could all share in together.
But no one loved it as much as my Gran. She was the biggest potterhead you have ever met. I have a photo of her dressed up in her Gryffindor colours at Potterworld, grinning like a lunatic with excitement. She bought every version of every book, every paperback, every hard cover, every audiobook. She was crazy about it.
So after the stroke, when she was lying in hospital dying, when she couldn’t speak, could barely move, we went to the hospital every day, and I read Harry Potter to her. And I’d feel her give my hand the faintest squeeze, and see the tiniest twitch of a smile when I got to the best parts.
I cannot describe how precious those memories are to me. They were the last moments I got to share with an absolutely incredible person, and those books were a lifeline in that bleak moment. A source of joy and comfort when we all needed it most. A brief shining light in her last days. So however important those books are to you, believe me, I get it.
And I still walked away from everything to do with that world and those stories, and never looked back, because no matter how much they mean to me, they don’t mean as much as the trans people in my life do.
I mean I also used to like libertarians and the church of Satan as a kid too
What has the church of Satan done other than be awesome?
You’re likely mixing up the church of Satan with the satanic temple. https://satanismtoday.net/articles/difference-between-church-of-satan-and-satanic-temple/
Yeah, I was a member of the church of Satan in highschool, now a member of The satanic Temple as an adult.
That’s very possible.
The books and films meant a lot to a lot of people, and I can’t blame people for loving the world she created for them.
I don’t regret having read the books and seen the films. But I’m also done with her and will never give her money again.
The books message seems at odds with what she is now. I think her position on trans rights was challenged, and she dug in, and was attacked harder, and she joined those that supported her, and was thrown into extremism. That said it seem she was epstein friendly before all of this, so, wtf.
Voldemort got the giants on his side by promising them equal rights. The end of the book says “and all was well” because Voldemort was defeated, but what about the giants? Why didn’t anyone help the giants?
The giants were genocided by the good guys that first forced them into ghettos and starved them, bombed them regularly, then came in with overwhelming force and killed their civilians, none of that wokery to get in the way like in real world situations where the libs are all like you can’t wipe millions of people off the the face of the earth. /s
I say because she’s apparently buddy buddy with Israel intelligence agent extrodinaire, the great honeypot.
During the American civil war, slavers said if slaves were freed, they’d sit around all day getting drunk instead of working. When Rowling wrote the house elf Winky, Winky was freed and then sat around all day getting drunk on butterbeer. Why did Rowling put pro-slavery propaganda in a children’s book?
ohgosh thus is another one if those… topics where ur not allowed to be a centrist, hm? >v<
i feel its reasonably easy to not know about it…,… maybe that’s just me tho—
EDIT: okay fair… that was being too general, I honestly don’t even read the whole post image and just the header and went like sigh-here we go again… which still very much paints me in a bad light, but oh well im not gonna remove the comment so peeps can see how evil and nefarious I am
You can be centrist, it just means you support pedophiles.
sigh fair— in this case ye
I don’t think I understand what you mean by “be a centrist” on this topic.
iguess what I mean is this:
so like -… gosh, this exact thing happens to me a lot… where both sides make total sense to me, even if I am on “one side”… but acknowledging the “oponents” points is already a bad thing,…
i remember peeps bein really angry about that one potter game— and like… yeah. sure. makes sense to not play it. but like… ubisoft is well known for having common sexual abuse and stuff in their offices, but most peeps still play that companies games…,…,
i didnt play it.,… but I found the whole discussion weirdly inflated… but like, in this case, with Epstine… well thats obviously going way beyond a simple onion 🧅 and… obviously shouldnt be supported and stuff----
wow thats a long comment
Well I think we should be shaming people this much for playing Ubisoft games. And since Hog Leg is the game that caused the stir, that’s the game I’m going to put My time into caring about.
Sure, but there’s degrees of evil. Learning how to paint from Bob Ross on youtube is only a tiny little bit evil. Going on Lemmy to defend Harry Potter is a much bigger evil. I’m talking about shades of grey here. Everything being bad still allows for some things to be worse.
hm yea oki Ur right, that makes sense >v<
i was under the assumption that this post was - saying even more bad things about a person we already know is bad just for the sake of it, or maybe to fuel more hatred or something… which - it only does the first thing of.,.,.
EDIT: updated pronouns
*Ur, I use capitalised pronouns
updated it ~<3
Thankies
If you’re tired of hearing about how awful Rowling is, believe me, we’re even more tired of having to talk about it.
But despite everything, she continues to be an incredibly influential voice, especially in British politics, and she also continues to be staggeringly wealthy thanks to the money she makes from the ongoing exploitation of the Harry Potter brand. And she uses that money to directly fund attacks on trans rights. She’s successfully swayed major British supreme court decisions that have had a devastating impact on trans people in the UK, and her influence has been a not insignificant factor in the current British government’s absolutely feckless response to these tragedies.
My neice had to leave the UK just to get healthcare, and now refuses to return because she’s so scared of what that country has become. And she’s one of the lucky ones because her family had the resources to get her out. There are many, many far less privileged people in the UK literally dying from lack of care. And Rowling is doing everything in her power to make it worse.
Yes, I get that we often have to accept that we will consume and enjoy media by people we don’t like. I’m not going to yell at someone for still loving Sandman despite the heinous shit that Gaiman did. But there’s a difference here. Gaiman isn’t leading an army of rabid followers trying to legalize his right to rape people, and throwing millions of dollars at supporting that cause. He’s an awful person and I hope he disappears forever, but the harm is done. The story is out there. Anyone who does even the briefest Google search on the guy is going to know to stay the fuck away.
But with Rowling, even talking about her media without spending a penny on it is still actively supporting the popularity and wealth of a person who is using both to inflict mass carnage on trans people. She is literally costing lives every single day that she continues to be a wealthy and influential figure.
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It must be exhausting interacting with 🇺🇲 peeps
hm, who r u referring to? >v<
im not merican…
I know.
You said “topics where you’re not allowed to be a centrist”
Which for Americans is basically every topic.
Must be frustrating dealing with us lol.