• Azrael@reddthat.com
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    7 hours ago

    Yeah you know what, let’s just abolish law enforcement all together. I’m sure nothing bad will come of it.

    • TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPM
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      6 hours ago

      The only bad that could come from it would be violent thugs beating the population into submission so business interests can exploit the people unabated. Oh wait…

    • for_some_delta@beehaw.org
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      6 hours ago

      Why trust the state with violence?

      Law enforcement does not prevent violence. Uvalde and other school shootings are examples of late violent responses. Armed suspects scare law enforcement. Law enforcement is incapable of doing violence to protect the unarmed.

      A better alternative is to arm and train community members. We keep us safe.

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        6 hours ago

        Then I guess you’re just choosing to ignore other countries which actually hold their police force to higher standards. You know, requiring actual training and holding officers accountable for their actions. Or are we strictly talking about the US here?

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          2 hours ago

          Are there actually police forces that aren’t power tripping bastards who will use violence against their fellow workers to serve the owner class when given the greenlight ? genuine question

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      5 hours ago

      State ≠ law enforcement

      A state is a centralised, often highly stratified entity with a monopoly of violence.

      When we say, “abolish the state”, what we mean is that:

      • we demand devolution
      • we demand liberation and equity
      • we demand the abolition of capitalism
      • we push against terrorist cops bombing people

      Rules can be made without a centralised, segregated institution that wants to defend either of those by violence on the commoners.