I don’t understand why they hide the names of these folks. Let them get harassed on LinkedIn for their nonsensical, unhelpful opinions they posted with their whole chests…
A boss using AI to create a cartoon that ridicules the importance of salary to employees is the height of irony
Even more ironic “betting industry consultant.” Literally works in an obsessive “get rich quick” industry and is mad someone wants to get paid
It’s satire, and probably stolen from this guy:
In this case it’s all well and good, just a bit of ragabaiting, but I still believe those who actually post these insane and hurtful things (people exchange their life and health for someone else’s profit, they shouldn’t discuss what the going rate is?) should be shamed, at least boo’d.
Yeah sure, if indeed it happens outside of the realm of parody. But otherwise it’s the equivalent of getting annoyed by every The Onion post, where the intent is already to satirise those people.
Could well be parody, or just simple rage bait.
Let them get bullied and blocked for their ragebait! We are all responsible for the words that come out of our mouths/typed on online spaces. 🤷
Blocked, not bullied. It’s just a shame that conflict creates ‘engagement’. If don’t feed the trolls was part of the modern internet, wed all be much better off.
Blocked and bullied. They need to know their actions are not tolerated, not that people they don’t know aren’t engaging with them in a way that has zero impact on them.
Scolded not bullied then.
Ummm… Isn’t the reason we’re here because we don’t have to use our real names?
I could try to follow the name YappyMonotheist around trying to bully you and you could just get a new name, go though a different server, and go on your merry way.
If you think I’m not yapping about God IRL with my chest (and my phone number if anyone wants to continue talking cause faith and philosophy fascinate me!) then you’re sorely mistaken, lol. But regardless, you or anyone, knowingly or not, could murder me too! That’s not the point, the question is: is it merited and would that create a change in the world for the better? Or am I just a villain? In the case of the LinkedIn capitalist slave trader that doesn’t even want people to care or talk about the price they’re selling their time at, I think it does merit it and it would create a better world!
I just think it’s ironic you’re making this argument on an anonymous forum. You’ve got the sense not to put your telephone number in this thread because you’d exchange the squirt gun of IRL conversation for the firehose of even as small (compared to the r-hug of death, for instance) an internet source as Lemmy.
No, I’m just a bit paranoid and I don’t want any white supremacist islamophobe to shank me. Or even hack me or whatever. I don’t win anything from it. But I argue this way IRL comfortably because at least I can tell if the person in front is a maniac or not, lol. You don’t know if I have social media where I am posting away the things I post here too… I don’t, btw, cause I get it all out IRL and social media just means my friends unknowingly ragebait me with their uncooked takes, but I could’ve! Finally, if Lemmy was a site where everyone had to give their phone number to participate, then sure, we’d all be on the same level, but randomly giving my number here? 🤔
I don’t accept an interview unless I have a clear idea of what kind of salary I can expect
But how could you not blindly accept this once in a lifetime internship opportunity?!?
When I was hunting for a job after being furloughed a year into COVID I was getting lots of callbacks for interviews.
After doing a few interviews and waiting until the job offer for compensation I got sick of all the clearly delusional people expecting a sysadmin to work for tier 1 support pay.
I switched gears. First question I asked to each callback was the salary range. I wasn’t going to waste my time.
It saved me loads of time on bullshit positions and the “wear all these hats” postings with skewed pay.
I accidentally laughed and then apologized to one poor recruiter when she told me it was $15/hr.
I ended up at a place about $10k/year less than my last job but it was 80% work from home instead of 100% on site.
I once sat through a two-stage interview for fairly niche job that I was exceptionally skilled at and had 8 years experience in. Then they mentioned the $21.00 an hour while rattling off the rest of the job conditions and I stopped the guy and made him repeat it. We both sat in silence for like 20 seconds and then I was like “Alright, should I go? I’m gonna go.” And just sort of awkwardly left.
A couple months later I got a salaried full-time position starting at more than twice that rate for the same sort of work.
I accidentally laughed and then apologized to one poor recruiter when she told me it was $15/hr.
Do it on purpose and don’t apologize next time.
One company i worked at lost their contract and I got laid off. A week later the same company called me and offered a position under a different contract at a different site for a 20% pay cut. I laughed at them and said nah, i can’t go backwards. Collected unemployment and found a different job at my previous rate a few weeks later.
I worked at a place that decided, because they were stupid in more ways than just this, that Systems Administrators were entry level, Systems Engineers were experienced, and DevOps were the top of the heap. (My preference is that these represent different sets of skills.) Many companies will pick a different random order.
(Actually, I interviewed many people with the same opinion.)
So it pays to mix up the words used. While they are all fools, no one is going to change based on my opinion.
Beyond the title. The list of responsibilities needs to match the salary.
The number of companies that mix and match responsibilities from different skillsets and expect below market rates is mind boggling.
I started applying to jobs outside my skillset. If I matched 40% of the requirements and tailored my resume to the posting I got better matches.
Landed a step down remote gig. Never stopped job hunting. Found a solid step up 6 months later. Jumped ship. I still kept shopping for a new gig. Stayed because they promoted me 3 times in a years.
At will employment. That means they can drop you when they want but you can also leave when you want.
Had to cut an interview short today. Everything was going great until the interviewer dropped the dreaded R-word: Responsibility.
Like, really? We’re talking about a once-in-a-lifetime employment opportunity here, and they want to focus on labor? Priorities, people…back to the jobs pool we go.
Yes!
Talking about “Taking Responsibility” is a huge red flag.
I manage people. When I talk about responsibility, I’m talking about my responsibility to deliver results, because I am fucking expensive.
When my VP talks about responsibility, they had better be talking about their own responsibility, because they are even more expensive than I am.
A leader who talks about “getting others to take responsibility” immediately makes me assume they are overpaid. Taking responsibility is their whole job. They shouldn’t talk about it, they shouldn’t ask for help with it, they should be responsible, be likeable, hire good staff, and clear obstacles.
I find that when I choose to be the responsible person in the room, and I manage to be likeable - people tend to watch my back, and the things I said were important tend to get done.
It’s nice when places let you know they are a toxic environment before the interview is even over. Gives you a chance to move on before you get stuck working there.
The problem is if the company is good but just the hiring manager is awfull. You might actually miss a once in a livetime opportunity because one person is a self absorbed shithead. And after you are hired you would never meet them again
If they do a shitty job hiring a hiring manager, they probably mess up a lot more in less critical places too
You’re not wrong. But having a shitty hiring manager is a decent heuristic for having a shitty culture/company.
If your server was covered in shit, the food might still be excellent. But odds are the rest of the staff is similarily poorly treated/chosen, and regardless they’ll still have touched your plate…
If the salary is not in the job ad, then I don’t apply. It is a very obvious red flag that the company is not going to treat you well.
Salary: £competitive
Competitive with a Bangladeshi sweatshop.
Ugh yes “competitive” is so annoying. In other words “we’ll pay you the minimum we can get away with”
If it really were a once in a lifetime career opportunity, then the salary would reflect that.
I love this. In my field we often say something like “this is mission-critical? Did the architects know? It’s not been designed to proper spec, you know, and that’s a safety issue.” But, #union, so it’s different.
So often, it’s deemed crucial but not really set up as if it were, and there’s the parallel with a “lifetime” opportunity architected like a joe-job.
lol my current boss’s first question in the interview was “can you work for $__ because that’s all I can give you, not my decision.”
Old school bosses are difficult in many ways, but they do at least realize why you’re there and what keeps you coming back.
For my current job, I finally managed to stand firm in negotiations. They wanted to start me at the lowest option, but I argued for my experience in the field, interests, and personality traits that would be an asset. They came back to me later and said they’d bumped me up to the highest starting wage. Thank goodness! It’s been a journey to own my self-worth and find the confidence to demand a higher number. I’m glad I did. This job has a rare team of management that actually listens to their employees, so I know I lucked out.
ppl who don’t realize that a job interview is both ways…
Betting industry consultant and proprietary trader
No loss to the candidate.
Sounds like a vile narcissist, expecting people to be so grateful just to have the opportunity to be in the presence of their unethical ruthless brilliance. XD
Betting industry
https://x.com/salmanso_/status/2004011126364033110
It’s 9:00 pm on Christmas Eve.
Not a single Kalshi engineer has left the office.
There’s levels to this.
“Once in a lifetime career opportunity” by someone working in betting industry. Yeah, I doubt it.
Both are hilariously meaningless job titles and yet I haven’t come a cross a single person in this thread that’s not taking it seriously.
Already know the replies incoming; “Yeah, but there’s plenty of nutty stiff like this on LinkedIn, how is anyone to know?”
Once in a lifetime opportunity to make shit money, more like.
I mean, maybe its not shit money. Maybe its sitting squarely on top of the salary median for the career and years experience. Maybe it really is a good offer. Idfk.
But employers act like you’re applying for “The One Job That Exists” rather than juggling competing offers. I’ve bid my own existing company against new hire offers multiple times. And, every time, my existing employer countered with a better offer.
If you don’t offer me a salary, why the fuck would I leave my current job? I have decades of experience. I have a very particular set of useful skills. I have friends all over the industry. I’ve got more than one “Once In A Lifetime Opportunity” to choose from.
Maybe it’s because I’m hourly but if there’s no pay listed I treat the offer as if it’s minimum wage.
Not a bad bet, all things considered. I’ve seen jobs that offer “minimum wage starting” and then make you jump through a bunch of annoying hoops to get up to the $20-$25/hr line. It’s basically a way to fuck over summer hires and seasonal/migrant workers.
Oh, I could bitch about this for hours. Minimum wage starting, but cross-train and we’ll bump your pay by a dollar for every role you’re certified in! Will we ever schedule your certification? Hell no! Contribute to our Continuous Improvement program to get bonuses! Do we ever actually process CI tickets to completion? lol no get fucked buddy, anyway you’re staying late tonight because the VP just sold another 100 units we don’t even have the parts for yet and we’ve scheduled delivery for Sunday.
Ahem. Anyway, I think we’re coming at this from different perspectives and our experiences with the job market differ accordingly. You’ve got a network and an impressive CV, and my skills are harder (for me, at least) to express on paper and I’m more or less disposable. So whereas they try to sell stuff that may or may not be a good deal to you as “the opportunity of a lifetime” they use the same gilding to try to get me to huff paint for 12 hours a day. I’m not sure where I was going with this but thank you for listening.
edit: realizing now that this post amounts to me complaining about my lot in life but I wanna clarify that I respect most career professionals and I do recognize that you guys work hard too.
I’m more or less disposable
Hey buddy. If they’re hiring, you’re not disposable. Managers come in a variety of flavors. Sometimes you get Peppermint Stupid. But also know your labor is worth more than their salary and without you their bills don’t get paid.
There’s power in a union. But even on your own, you can exert a surprising amount of leverage by finding your niche, establishing your criticality, and then setting boundaries on when you’re going to work. When other workers see you getting “special treatment”, and when you encourage them to stick up for themselves in turn, you can change the culture of an office through collective stubbornness. Or, at the very least, you can get an obnoxious assistant/middle manager shit-canned for failing to meet their own numbers.
But yeah, professionalization adds a lot more (corporately perceived) value to your resume. Once the business has handcuffed itself to college degrees and years experience, the employees discover a lot more freedom.
Yeah a once in a lifetime opportunity is a mentorship for a person new to their career that will set them up for huge success in the future. When you have experience, skills, and contacts all they can offer you is money, benefits, and perks, and the money better be the headliner there
I am a once in a lifetime employee. I’m interviewing the company.
That’s how my sibling usually did it. His resume, talent and creds are astounding; but he doesn’t mention to the interviewer that he’s running the competition, not them.
He does use the proper language “I’m sorry to inform you that you haven’t been selected in this round of competition, but I wish you every success,” etc. It’s been different in this era of mass lay-offs and the upended power dynamic, even for the elite candidates, but typically he’d start with an opportunity pool of about 50, and bring it to about 20 after an initial interview; 5 after the second interview.
My god that’s a ton of effort
It is the law in my region that job adverts viewable from here must include a salary range.
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Yes it’s not easy to enforce. Since a visible salary an equality thing, it’s possible to flag the incomplete posting as discriminatory issue and have it pulled, though.
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They cheese out with a $100-500k salary; and everyone knows it’s cheeseball.
But it’s the law. This dinkweed is discriminating over applicants using protected speech to ask about a detail missing in the advert, and we all find out he is chauvinist in the end.
How to know if a company is dishonest, level 1.
AI slop overview:
By 2026, the EU’s Pay Transparency Directive mandates salary disclosure in job ads, bans asking salary history, requires pay gap reporting (phased by size), and gives employees rights to pay info to tackle gender pay gaps, with member states implementing national rules by June 7, 2026, affecting all EU employers and non-EU firms with EU staff.
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Every chapter of the Cult of Humans as Resources has their own forbidden words.
I’ve only known one cool HR person…they fired her a year after I quit
they are kind o fa weird cult, aren’t they
