• Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de
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    21 days ago

    Personally I’m not sure about the rape claims, but regarding the murders let’s take this excerpt from Wikipedia:

    He described his brutality using paradoxical phrases, such as defining the revolutionary’s motivation as “an immeasurable feeling of love,” while at the same time having to practice “becoming a cold-blooded killing machine, driven by pure hatred.”

    Given he apparently said that, was described by others to enjoy killings and was proven to be directly responsible for shootings of countless of people (including, but not limited to the ones in '59) we should absolutely hold that against him. There’s no sense in shifting the blame to a state, given he together with Castro was the one building and directly in charge of it.

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      21 days ago

      I hate doing this, but even the US has done very apprehensive shit to leftists not too long ago, and nobody is painting the people responsible like Che.

      Even the fucking W Bush is now painting and acting like a little angel, after overseeing two countries destruction.

      Yet the west keeps only pointing out faults of others.

      ML is a place of sickos and bad faith people, but there are kernels of truth in the madness.

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        21 days ago

        That’s funny given most of the image people have of Guevara is due to western commercialization (and at the same time romanticizing) of his likeness, not because he was such a good guy.

        I hate the whole US bullshit as well, but simping for someone who’s by his own accord a hate-fuelled killer (as well) just because he opposed them won’t get you anywhere either.

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          20 days ago

          No argument there.

          But at least he was honest.

          I hate how much people white-wash modern mass murderers despite them doing it for profit only, nothing else.