• F/15/Cali@threads.net@sh.itjust.works
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    25 days ago

    This whole thing never made much sense. It’s just a poorly thought out version of the passage of trauma, one that fails to account for systemization of classism, bigotry, and the like. If this were the case, things should swing wildly every 40 years, but that hasn’t been my observation.

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      25 days ago

      No, it makes perfect sense if you treat it like the metaphorical expression it is and not a literal description of reality…

      Or are you the kind of person to think, “measure twice, cut once” literally means you need to measure things twice and not that it’s about being careful?

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        24 days ago

        I’d give it respect as a saying if it hadn’t been adopted by republicans as a means of putting down society at large. The Apple doesn’t fall across the bridge when it gets to it.

        Also, I do measure twice. But I also cut three times because I’m terrible with electric saws and I need the practice.

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          24 days ago

          That’s stupid. Republicans will miscontrue and torture any expression if it lets them shit on others.

          Just look at “right to work”, or all the BS they’ve spouted against universal healthcare since long before Trump et. al…

          If you let lying cheating monsters define everything, OFC most of it isn’t going to be true.

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            24 days ago

            You’re welcome to fight the treadmill of American language and associations to attempt to reclaim a saying that I personally view as limiting. Sounds like a huge undertaking, but it seems like it really matters to you. I’m rooting for you.

            I’ll never cede ymca as a straight song, but a poorly thought out saying, I can’t care.

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              24 days ago

              Then keep allowing shitty people to ruin things like you seem to want to do. It’s the American way, after all.

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        24 days ago

        Nah, metaphors can be wrong. Even things that “feel true” can be wrong.

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          24 days ago

          It’s not wrong when viewed as a metaphor.

          Entire generations aren’t comprised of weak or strong men. It’s fucking stupid to think it means the world works in predictable cycles.

          What it actually means is, don’t put weak men in charge.

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            24 days ago

            How is this a metaphor for “don’t put weak men in charge”??

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                23 days ago

                Bad people create bad times, it’s pretty simple.

                People might consider Jimmy Carter a “soft man,” but did he “create bad times”?

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                  23 days ago

                  Those people are not defining ‘soft’ correctly, then. Also the original expression isn’t “soft”, it’s “weak”.

                  Sure, Carter might not have had muscles, but only a vile piece of trash would call him weak.

                  Edit: Interesting how you edited your post to read very different after my response… Almost like you realize you were spouting shit at first.

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                23 days ago

                So you think saying “x causes y” directly is a metaphor for “x causes y, so dont do x”. Huh. What do you think a metaphor is?