Of course without committing a crime before and without saying anything else.

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    So New Zealand doesn’t have a concept of the courts can’t make you testify against yourself? That surprises me.

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      Of course we do.

      But it derives from common law via the New Zealand Bill of Rights and has nothing whatsoever to do with the US Constitution’s amendments.

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        Thank you for helping to prove my point. When the OP was saying take the fifth he was talking in a genetic way. In other words walking into the police station and taking that countries variation of the fifth. He just didn’t bother typing it fully out like that because it was obvious what his point was. It’s obvious that new Zealand doesn’t have the literal fifth amendment but they have the equivalent of it. Again thank you for helping to prove my point.

        When I asked “doesn’t new Zealand have that concept” I new they did. I was trying to get you to understand what the op was trying to say.

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      “The fifth” is American. They have the same or similar concept in other countries, they just have different names for it than “the fifth amendment”.

      Plead “the fifth” in NZ and they’ll tell you that you watch too much American television.

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        I know that. I was trying to get him to understand that the op was talking in a generic sense. Both op and myself realize that new Zealand has an equivalent concept of the fifth. Op wasn’t trying to say walk in and literally say “plead the fifth” but walk in and do the equivalent of that.

        People get way to literal when they don’t need to be.

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          You’re right. I thought everyone here knows “the 5th” and it’s just shorter than “the right to remain silent”. However, most people seem to have got the right idea.