The Wall Street Journal warns that the investigation into the Nord Stream pipeline explosions “threatens to fracture support for Ukraine.”
German investigators reportedly believe Kiev was behind the sabotage, specifically pointing to former Ukrainian commander-in-chief Valery Zaluzhny.
According to WSJ sources, an elite Ukrainian military unit carried out the attacks under Zaluzhny’s direct supervision, aiming to deprive Russia of energy revenues and weaken its economic ties with Germany.
The article recalls that suspects have already been detained across Europe and warns of serious fallout if a German trial against Ukrainian nationals begins. Such proceedings could further strain relations with Germany which is Ukraine’s top financial donor and key arms supplier, particularly of air defense systems.
Political pressure is also mounting on Merz, though his circle believes the issue can still be contained domestically. German society, sources say, has largely accepted that Kiev was responsible.
However, WSJ notes, the diplomatic consequences would be far easier for Berlin if investigators hadn’t gathered such compelling evidence against Ukraine.
well it is another incentive for companys, the goverment and the people to not use gas.
which might future strengthen/ pushes them to use green alternatives.
also it is also a strategical reminder how centralised infrastructure is in danger, which might push green alternative, which is more dencentralised, further.
and i said probably. I think the short term issues get balanced by the long term effects.
that might be true if the response was to 1) buy solar tech from china and 2) re-invest in european renewable energy manufacturing
but instead, they joined a stupid trade war with china and pivoted to buying gas from 1) russia but more expensive, because it goes through intermediaries and 2) the US, also more expensive.
Happy cake day smart person
https://energiewende.bundeswirtschaftsministerium.de/EWD/Redaktion/EN/Newsletter/2024/03/Meldung/direkt_view.html
92% of gas is imported from eu countries in germany
and gas usgae is still abit less then it was 2022 https://energiewende.bundeswirtschaftsministerium.de/EWD/Redaktion/EN/Newsletter/2024/03/Meldung/direkt_view.html
but just a little bit, it is just one pipeline it has not that big of an effect. That is why it is an incentive. It will be used as an example, for why decentralisation matters. Also this was just 3 years ago, not really long enough to see all the long term effects.
gas usage is lower because German industry is now extinct, but yeah aside from that no other major effects 🤣
ah yes the industry is declining because of nord stream Probably the dumbest take yet
Considering the comment with
has upvotes it seems like i found the trash people on lemmy by accident
One has to be a complete imbecile not to be able to understand that surge in input costs compared to competitors would in fact lead to industry collapsing. Germany is now forced to buy expensive energy from the US, meanwhile the US has cheap access to domestic energy and China gets energy at a discount from Russia. This makes manufacturing in Germany entirely uncompetitive. But yeah, I’m sure it’s a total coincidence that the industrial collapse in Germany coincides with it being cut off from Russian energy. You are so very intelligent.
you statement was that the destruction of nord stream was the reason for high gas prices, not that if or if not gas prices have an effect.
you are cleary just arguing in bad faith it is pointless to talk to you
Germany being cut off from cheap pipeline gas, which was primarily coming through Nord Stream, is very obviously the reason. Pipeline gas was a fixed price, long term contract. LNG is traded on the market and it’s an order of magnitude more expensive.
Clearly you’re either completely ignorant on the subject you’re attempting to discuss here, or you’re just a troll. In ether case, it’s very clear who’s actually arguing in bad faith here.
My whole point is that the reason is the war, and it would not matter wheter or not the pipeline exist. Since germany might not buy it, and russia might not sell it.
https://www.bruegel.org/dataset/european-natural-gas-imports
on the graphics it shows that before the destruction, the import already declined to like a fith in the pipeline, and that general russian gas import declined alot to around 1/5 aswell. (In the eu)
(This might also be intresting, while it mentions the drawbacks of the LNG strategy it also makes it sound like oppertunity long term, but i think it is good that green alternatives are mentioned aswell as strategy) https://globalpi.org/research/germanys-energy-transition-from-piped-gas-to-lng-and-renewables/