(i know this is an exchange between some of the worst people of the internet)

    • Twongo [she/her]@lemmy.mlOP
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      as far as i remember she has no morals of her own - she only tried to appease those that give her views - maybe i’m wrong

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      2 days ago

      Because shoes go on feet not heads. Blatant misinformation about the purpose and location of shoes.

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      Partly because of legitimately bad takes on some stuff but mostly because kids these days don’t have the mental flexibility for 2006 4chan humor.

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        18 hours ago

        I think I used to think that. Like, I get the edgy 4chaner-esque thing. There’s a bit of selfaware irony in it all that can work…

        But for Shoe, after the Kirk thing, when she rushed to play defense, I think the whole mask dropped. Which, kind of makes sense. I don’t think you can do 2010 anti-sjw content for 15 years and not ACTUALLY be a bit of a winger. If you haven’t grown in that time, and you’re still stuck making that same content… that’s just who you are.

        Look at her contemporaries and people after her. AmazingAtheist/TJ/IntoTheFray was one of the OG anti-feminist/sjw creators. He’s still a bit of an edgelord, but even he’s grown past that content and matured in thought.

        And you can look at her peers in the space who sort of occupy the same niche. People like Vaush. Bit edgy, bit hot-take. But still has pretty consistent lefty values.

        For Shoe, her act stopped being an act. The jokes just became what she is. She wasn’t being critical anymore of lefty extemists, she was just becoming a winger. And her defense of Kirk proved it.

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          13 hours ago

          Probably the strongest argument against her. I think i just washed it away as a lib take in line with pelosi/schumer types.

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          Moreso a means of communicating where everything is tongue in cheek and generally accepted as fake. It wasn’t perfect, don’t want a lot of it back, especially not the parts that eventually incubated fascists, but that’s her humor, and i understand it.

          She’s problematic in oh so many other ways. I’m not suggesting she’s a protagonist here lol

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            The whole “lol it’s just a joke” thing has been a key tool used to normalize fascism in the US. It’s a blatant tactic used by the right to normalize truly horrifying things.

            And unfortunately, it has been wildly successful

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              13 hours ago

              Look I’m not defending much, but especially not what came after 2006. Shit went south but it wasn’t the humor that caused it. /pol/ was a mistake from the start. Gave the fash an unmoderated anonymous hang out. That spread after 2006.

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        Oh fuck off, just because ypu can’t be a fucking bigot openly as easily without being called on it doesnt show a lack of mental flexibility on their part. Fuck off back to 4chan if you can’t handle people being called out for being shitty humans.