• geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlM
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            18 days ago

            Russia had investments and other assets in the EU. First the EU froze their assets, which in itself is a dangerous move because it claims ownership over anothers investments. Now the EU is selling those assets and giving the money to Ukraine. This is directly stealing money from Russia.

            If you buy S&P500 stocks and the US decides to “confiscate your assets to give to Donald Trump” then effectively you have been robbed.

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              18 days ago

              Do you call it stealing when the police takes your money after you’ve got pulled over for speeding as well? Or, to more accurately mirror Russia’s actions, drive into someone else’s yard killing and abducting the residents

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                Neither the EU nor the US are the world’s police. They have absolutely no right to unilaterally declare themselves the world’s policeman. Only the UN has the right to impose sanctions.

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                  4 days ago

                  That is true. However, when someone is being really bad you do what you can to prevent it

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                18 days ago

                There is a well known and clear agreement that if I speed I pay a fine. There are also cases of cops “confiscating” people’s money which I would indeed classify as stealing.

                The problem here is that Ukraine is not in the EU and Europe made up a punishment after Russia invaded Ukraine.

                Trump too can make up things and sign them into law after you invested your money, giving him the “legal authority” to steal it, but he’s still stealing your money, which is the example I’m giving.

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                  17 days ago

                  Why do you bring up and compare to Trump? Trump is a monster, a bully and an asshole. I don’t give a flying f about that guy. Both Russia and Trump can be bad

                  Russia has invaded, raped, killed and abducted. What ever they were entitled to should be forfeited until all the damage they have caused has been paid for both economically and emotionally. They had every chance to get their values back by just not continuing to invade Ukraine

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                    17 days ago

                    Trump is a monster, a bully and an asshole

                    So is the EU

                    Russia has invaded, raped, killed and abducted.

                    You mean like what the EU supports in Israel?

                    What ever they were entitled to should be forfeited until all the damage they have caused has been paid for

                    Then the EU should be giving all their assets away to the countless countries they’ve destroyed over the years, from the Congo to Iraq to Palestine. Oh but no, you’re a bunch of hypocrites who want to enforce a law on others that you won’t follow yourself.

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                17 days ago

                The EU is not the fucking world police. This is like some random guy pulling you over and taking your money.

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                  16 days ago

                  If it was a killer in your neighborhood on the loose, would you respect his possessions?

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                    16 days ago

                    Yes. Especially if I was a prolific killer myself, as Europe is in the analogy.