The thing is fruit/vegetable is not a category in botany. Fruit exists, and it kinda has that definition, that it carries seeds, but that doesn’t serve to distinguish it from vegetables.
Fruit/vegetable is a culinary distinction, rather than a scientific one.
And this is the whole point of the controversy: The same word can have multiple meanings in different contexts and some people have trouble with that concept.
Many vegetables have seeds.
Pumpkins are already in the example, but think peppers, legumes
I would still consider those fruits tbh, but yea they do draw the line
The thing is fruit/vegetable is not a category in botany. Fruit exists, and it kinda has that definition, that it carries seeds, but that doesn’t serve to distinguish it from vegetables.
Fruit/vegetable is a culinary distinction, rather than a scientific one.
And this is the whole point of the controversy: The same word can have multiple meanings in different contexts and some people have trouble with that concept.
There’s no controversy, only differing categories.
If you are saying tomato is a fruit, you are using the botany category
When I say tomato is a vegetable, I am using the culinary category
If there’s argument it’s only because someone is keeping the category secret
… that’s what I was saying.
Glad of it