• NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    Well given that there were 700000 Arabs who had to flee out of fear of getting murdered (or because they were directly ordered to flee by the IDF’s predecessors), I’d say they were pretty successful.

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      That’s some interesting revisionist history. They were told they’d be able to return after the surrounding nations destroyed the newly formed Israel… that backfired and the surrounding nations refused to take on the refugees they created. Womp womp.

      That’s the find out part that comes after fucking around. Seems like that lesson wasn’t learned so they’re back for more. Sucks for all the people who just want peace.

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        They were told they’d be able to return after the surrounding nations destroyed the newly formed Israel… that backfired and the surrounding nations refused to take on the refugees they created.

        So you’re saying Israel did not massacre or expel Palestinians? I suggest reading Benny Morris (a Zionist Israeli historians)'s four-stage analysis of the Palestinian diaspora. Hint: Most of them were fleeing for their lives or actively ordered to flee by the IDF’s predecessors, as I said above.

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          I’m not saying a war didn’t happen. Both sides were displaced and communities attacked from north to south by both.

          What I’m saying is many Arabs, hundreds of thousands of them left willingly and under the direction of the surrounding Arab Nations under the promise of being able to return once Israel was destroyed.

          It’s not Israel’s fault they’re still waiting. Many Arabs who didn’t leave, still live there in peace accounting for nearly 20% of the country’s population.

          Had they not left, had Israel not been attacked by 5 countries at once kicking off generations of warring, who knows if we would have seen peace. The Israelis were open to the partition plan, it’s the Arabs that weren’t and that’s the unfortunate reality they’ve left Palestinians with ever since.

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            What I’m saying is many Arabs, hundreds of thousands of them left willingly and under the direction of the surrounding Arab Nations under the promise of being able to return once Israel was destroyed.

            It’s not Israel’s fault they’re still waiting. Many Arabs who didn’t leave, still live there in peace accounting for nearly 20% of the country’s population.

            Are you even reading what I said? Most of these people left because they either (rightly given the sheer number of massacres) feared for their lives or were actively expelled.