• shawn1122@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    I think we can say that Israel is worse than Hamas since Hamas has never committed a genocide on the scale that Israel is currently and the West is at best complicit and at worst actively funding it.

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      2 days ago

      Yes Israel is worse due to the power imbalance.

      What would Hamas do if they had the power of Israel. I doubt many can argue they would be better.

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        1 day ago

        And if my grandma had wheels she would have been a bike. What difference does it make what they would do in a hypothetical scenario?

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          That situation had significant differences. The power balance was not skewed as far as it is with Israel. And there was no religious hate driving the conflict. External powers were also not fueling the conflict to the same level.

          Where it was similar was how the conflict was used by weak men to maintain their priveledged positions. Once the two parties negotiated how the weak men on both sides, were going to keep sharing the spoils, the conflict got resolved. Remember when Israel and the palastinian authority where starting to gain some traction in negoriations, Hamas took power. That would not have been possible without the religious indoctrination and external interference from Israel and the US.

          I have been living in South Africa my whole life, was discrimination against by the apartheid regime and now by the new government using many of the same race based tools to maintain a political elite at the cost of the average South African.

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            2 days ago

            Ah, so you don’t just “both sides” the Palestinian genocide, you also do it to Apartheid South Africa.

            You going to do the US Civil War too?

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              2 days ago

              Conflicts are rarely one sided, if ever.

              Just because one side is bad, does not make the other side good.

              Believing otherwise is just naive, or based on ignorance.

              Do you think the firebombing of dresden in WW2 was justified because the Nazi’s were worse?

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                2 days ago

                Oh god, you actually do “both sides” the US Civil War.

                Do you even do it to the holocaust?

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                  2 days ago

                  Why would you assume that?

                  Why is it so difficult for people to understand that you can condemn the Israeli genocide of Palestinians, the Holocaust of Jews and slavery(both old and current). All while still being critical of Hamas targeting a festival on oct 7, the allies firebombing German and Japanese cities and religious and cultural obliteration conducted by Islam and Christianity in the middle ages.

                  If you cannot hold that position, you may want to check yourself for indoctrination by the “us vs them” narrative.

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                    1 day ago

                    So when people start criticizing Russia’s invasion of Ukrainian, do you also make sure to start going on about all the imperfections of Ukraine? Or do you reserve that “both sidesism” for non-whites like you have so far?