Both sides, yes, but one side is still WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY worse than the other.
Hesitant as I am to open this can of worms, this always strikes me as saying something like “My manager is way nicer than the HR department. They’re the only people who have ever fired anyone”
Like, I guess it is true in a sense? But they are the same. It’s not that one is worse or better. One is the designated executor of the intentions that they both share. This allows the executor to look worse, for the exact purpose of maintaining morale among the team and keeping them playing by the manager’s rules.
It’s like, if both my mom and my dad think that I should be beaten for lying about my grades, and they both secretly decide that mom should be the one to beat me. Is dad way better than mom? Not really. Mom is just doing the dirty work so Dad can keep his hands clean. Then when I get beat I don’t decide to run away, because I think “at least Dad isn’t so bad, at least Dad doesn’t beat me”. But Dad does beat me in any sense that matters, he just beats me via the proxy of Mom. You could even say Dad is worse, because he’s not only complicit in the beating, but he also conceals his true nature to prevent me from escaping the situation.
What’s missing from your analogy is that if you try to run away and fail, your mom will beat you even more - and both your parents spent their whole lives rigging the house so you wouldn’t get away. And if you manage to, any other person you talk to in the street will turn out to be an undercover security officer who will take you back to the house.
It is 100% a hostage situation - you either let them have their way and accept a miserable life, or they force their way and you live a miserable and painful life.
Of course the ideal solution is to get away. But how? Simply trying to walk out the front door every 4 years is not really working.
Not all that much on this issue. They’re both maximum bad. Neither Biden nor starmer is worse than the conservatives on this issue. Empty gestures aside. Obviously the Republicans and Torries are fucking cunts, I presume I can say that on Lemmy here.
Both sides, yes, but one side is still WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY worse than the other.
Hesitant as I am to open this can of worms, this always strikes me as saying something like “My manager is way nicer than the HR department. They’re the only people who have ever fired anyone”
Like, I guess it is true in a sense? But they are the same. It’s not that one is worse or better. One is the designated executor of the intentions that they both share. This allows the executor to look worse, for the exact purpose of maintaining morale among the team and keeping them playing by the manager’s rules.
It’s like, if both my mom and my dad think that I should be beaten for lying about my grades, and they both secretly decide that mom should be the one to beat me. Is dad way better than mom? Not really. Mom is just doing the dirty work so Dad can keep his hands clean. Then when I get beat I don’t decide to run away, because I think “at least Dad isn’t so bad, at least Dad doesn’t beat me”. But Dad does beat me in any sense that matters, he just beats me via the proxy of Mom. You could even say Dad is worse, because he’s not only complicit in the beating, but he also conceals his true nature to prevent me from escaping the situation.
What’s missing from your analogy is that if you try to run away and fail, your mom will beat you even more - and both your parents spent their whole lives rigging the house so you wouldn’t get away. And if you manage to, any other person you talk to in the street will turn out to be an undercover security officer who will take you back to the house.
It is 100% a hostage situation - you either let them have their way and accept a miserable life, or they force their way and you live a miserable and painful life.
Of course the ideal solution is to get away. But how? Simply trying to walk out the front door every 4 years is not really working.
You get all your siblings to band together and beat mom and dad’s ass. Organization is the only way to defeat tyranny from the inside.
Not all that much on this issue. They’re both maximum bad. Neither Biden nor starmer is worse than the conservatives on this issue. Empty gestures aside. Obviously the Republicans and Torries are fucking cunts, I presume I can say that on Lemmy here.
Maybe in the past, they are pretty much the same these days.