it will then be pointed out that milling machines fucking exist and have for decades without being an issue.
It’s kinda a lot more difficult to build a proper rifle with old fashioned tools. You need a workshop and quite some money for that stuff. Oh, and actually quite some knowledge if you want to get something that actually works more than once and shoots straight. And did I mention that this stuff is expensive? And you gotta have to transport those pretty heavy tools. Really hard to do that without anybody noticing. I know, because I have such a fancy workshop. And it would still take me a lot of work and dedication.
This 3D printing stuff makes it a lot easier, the hardest part is the chemical-mechanical barrel production. That’s something I could realistically do with my 3D printer and tools I got in a week or so. This is nothing like rifle making in comparison.
Shit man, just regulate firearms parts that are currently unregulated, and implement a license for 3D printer purchases. I’d gladly be on a list of 3D printer owners, just for those Nazi fucks to have another obstacle and another “contact point” with authorities where they can be caught.
I can go out today and buy a $3000 cnc mill and make 100s of tiny parts in 1 week that will turn any consumer bought AR15 into a fully automatic weapon of destruction. All the plans and details how to do it have been online for a long time. It’s not hard and these people have the motivation and willingness to do it.
You cannot buy consumer grade AR15 in European countries without having a gun licencse, having the gun registered and subject yourself to random inspections if it is stored properly, which usually means unloaded in a gun safe.
Organizations like this one, at least competent ones, don’t buy guns at the shops. I was making a point but I’m sure there is an illicit gun trade even in Sweden.
I’d gladly be on a list of 3D printer owners, just for those Nazi fucks to have another obstacle
The problem starts to arise when the nazi fucks suddenly run the country and go through these readily available lists and don’t recognize you as an old friend from the olden days. And then the door bell brings bad news.
It’s kinda a lot more difficult to build a proper rifle with old fashioned tools. You need a workshop and quite some money for that stuff.
It’s kind of not, and you don’t. You’re still reliant on metal for any actual parts involved in the firing process. You still cannot 3d print a barrel you want to use more than once or with any sort of accuracy.
Oh, and actually quite some knowledge if you want to get something that actually works more than once and shoots straight.
Right, which is why 3d printers aren’t that gr… oh, wait, you thought you were talking about milling machines. Nah dude, 3d printers are a fucking whore and a bitch to get good parts off of. They’re finicky as shit. You can EASILY have a 30 hour long print shit itself at the last minute and render the whole thing unusable. It doesn’t matter what kind of printer you’re using, it WILL wreck your life at some point. Unless, of course, you’re using a six-figure production machine at which point your entire money argument gets skullfucked.
And did I mention that this stuff is expensive?
No, it isn’t. You can get a mill for under a grand if you look around. Hell, find the right old timer looking to get rid of his gear and you’ll probably get some good tools as well. Not that this matter, because when you’re trying to improvise weapons A FUCKING DRILL PRESS is more than enough to get the job done for most operations. Whatever your shop is doesn’t goddamn matter when the gun only has to operate for a handful of shots.
I know, because I have such a fancy workshop.
Well obviously you’re a fucking terrorist and need to register all of your tools. Mills, lathes, any sort of welding or sheet metal equipment, all of this can be used in the manufacture of firearms and since you’re piss-pants bitchass scared of plastic I can only assume that extends to the ability to manufacture real live firearms, right?
RIGHT? YA FUCKING BRAINDEAD HYPOCRITE? You going to register your fucking mill with the government so they know you aren’t a terrorist? ARE YOU NOW OR HAVE YOU EVER BEEN A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY?
I’d gladly be on a list of 3D printer owners, just for those Nazi fucks to have another obstacle and another “contact point” with authorities where they can be caught.
That’s because you’re a moron.
Here’s your gold star, 3d printer boy, please board the train and don’t cry too much.
RIGHT? YA FUCKING BRAINDEAD HYPOCRITE? You going to register your fucking mill with the government so they know you aren’t a terrorist? ARE YOU NOW OR HAVE YOU EVER BEEN A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY?
I’m appaled by the tone in your response. I come to the fediverse because many of the discussions are interesting and I like to browse the comments or add my 2 cents.
You are doing the digital equivalent of screaming at the top of your lungs.
I suggest you learn to rely on arguments instead of cheap rethoric and caps lock.
You clearly like the taste of your own dick. Maybe your shit opinion is only worth two cents but mine is clearly worth AT LEAST NINE DOLLARS AND EIGHTY THREE CENTS so eat a bag of goat balls.
It’s kinda a lot more difficult to build a proper rifle with old fashioned tools. You need a workshop and quite some money for that stuff. Oh, and actually quite some knowledge if you want to get something that actually works more than once and shoots straight. And did I mention that this stuff is expensive? And you gotta have to transport those pretty heavy tools. Really hard to do that without anybody noticing. I know, because I have such a fancy workshop. And it would still take me a lot of work and dedication.
This 3D printing stuff makes it a lot easier, the hardest part is the chemical-mechanical barrel production. That’s something I could realistically do with my 3D printer and tools I got in a week or so. This is nothing like rifle making in comparison.
Shit man, just regulate firearms parts that are currently unregulated, and implement a license for 3D printer purchases. I’d gladly be on a list of 3D printer owners, just for those Nazi fucks to have another obstacle and another “contact point” with authorities where they can be caught.
I can go out today and buy a $3000 cnc mill and make 100s of tiny parts in 1 week that will turn any consumer bought AR15 into a fully automatic weapon of destruction. All the plans and details how to do it have been online for a long time. It’s not hard and these people have the motivation and willingness to do it.
You cannot buy consumer grade AR15 in European countries without having a gun licencse, having the gun registered and subject yourself to random inspections if it is stored properly, which usually means unloaded in a gun safe.
Organizations like this one, at least competent ones, don’t buy guns at the shops. I was making a point but I’m sure there is an illicit gun trade even in Sweden.
There is, it’s just a lot less accessible and I would assume a lot less expensive.
Bank robbers would have guns in Europe, but ypur average guy breaking and entering won’t.
The problem starts to arise when the nazi fucks suddenly run the country and go through these readily available lists and don’t recognize you as an old friend from the olden days. And then the door bell brings bad news.
…then its not the 3D printer owners they care about. They go more after the lists of leftist party members.
It’s kind of not, and you don’t. You’re still reliant on metal for any actual parts involved in the firing process. You still cannot 3d print a barrel you want to use more than once or with any sort of accuracy.
Right, which is why 3d printers aren’t that gr… oh, wait, you thought you were talking about milling machines. Nah dude, 3d printers are a fucking whore and a bitch to get good parts off of. They’re finicky as shit. You can EASILY have a 30 hour long print shit itself at the last minute and render the whole thing unusable. It doesn’t matter what kind of printer you’re using, it WILL wreck your life at some point. Unless, of course, you’re using a six-figure production machine at which point your entire money argument gets skullfucked.
No, it isn’t. You can get a mill for under a grand if you look around. Hell, find the right old timer looking to get rid of his gear and you’ll probably get some good tools as well. Not that this matter, because when you’re trying to improvise weapons A FUCKING DRILL PRESS is more than enough to get the job done for most operations. Whatever your shop is doesn’t goddamn matter when the gun only has to operate for a handful of shots.
Well obviously you’re a fucking terrorist and need to register all of your tools. Mills, lathes, any sort of welding or sheet metal equipment, all of this can be used in the manufacture of firearms and since you’re piss-pants bitchass scared of plastic I can only assume that extends to the ability to manufacture real live firearms, right?
RIGHT? YA FUCKING BRAINDEAD HYPOCRITE? You going to register your fucking mill with the government so they know you aren’t a terrorist? ARE YOU NOW OR HAVE YOU EVER BEEN A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY?
That’s because you’re a moron.
Here’s your gold star, 3d printer boy, please board the train and don’t cry too much.
I’m appaled by the tone in your response. I come to the fediverse because many of the discussions are interesting and I like to browse the comments or add my 2 cents.
You are doing the digital equivalent of screaming at the top of your lungs. I suggest you learn to rely on arguments instead of cheap rethoric and caps lock.
You clearly like the taste of your own dick. Maybe your shit opinion is only worth two cents but mine is clearly worth AT LEAST NINE DOLLARS AND EIGHTY THREE CENTS so eat a bag of goat balls.