My problem with this is that most people think the solution is to ask politely leveraging peaceful protests and waving signs.
When in reality this has been a popular concept that is protested for the past 100 years with ZERO actual progress, and the real solution to properly implement this kind of generous socialist idea of distribution of wealth and food and shelter with equity requires aggressive rhetoric and likely needs to be enforced with actual violence, otherwise fascism and capitalism will continue to persist for generations.
Honestly, I think most people don’t even see it as a problem. Anyone who is better off than the average person likely doesn’t want stuff to get handed out for free. It’s easy to think “I struggled to get my stuff and now we’re just going to give it out for free!?”
It’s like someone finally paying off their student loan after years of thrifty spending and going without and then seeing their classmate who didn’t pay a dime towards theirs, instead spending on frivolous luxuries and going on yearly trips, having it forgiven. The person who did things “the right way” feels like they got played.
Unless people who have gone through struggles to improve their situation can avoid feeling slighted, they’re unlikely to be supportive of change.
While my anecdotal story won’t mean much in the sea of Internet comments, i look at it from a societal point of view; when I graduated college, I came out with $100k in debt, no job, and no way to make ends meet. I did work hard through jobs and through as many clever ways to move the debt around as much as possible. Eventually, after many years, they were paid off. Student loans are a curse cast by the greedy predatory schools and lenders that make empty promises.
Who am I to get upset when someone figures out a way, or stumbles into a way to release them from that curse? In the long run, the sooner loans are paid off/forgiven, the sooner it will help everyone else.
The most important asset to any country is it’s people, so why wouldn’t we want to take care of each other in every way possible? We all live on the same rock together, so why not try to make life less painful for everyone.
Will people take advantage of it? Of course. There is no way to prevent that, but if resources are provided or made easier to access, then it makes it less likely for people to take advantage of it.
Do I think that will ever happen? Probably not, it’s a utopian ideal and it would take such a major paradigm shift to get people to have empathy for others and to help lift each other up during rough times. I still think it’s something to strive for, even if we only achieve a fraction of that utopia.
Okay, so why aren’t people upset that some joker who wasn’t smart enough to get a physics degree and switched majors because it was too hard, then had a sure thing handed to him by the company he was working for arguably because he was bad at his job, started a business that took less than a month of work to become profitable, and then became one of the world’s richest men by exploiting the desperate working class? Why aren’t people angry about that?
Probably because they can’t relate to someone who has lived his whole life in extravagance. But they can relate to the neighbourhood kid whose college debt was excused. They can imagine “It should’ve been me, not him”. That’s their envy.
The likely reason they follow the clowns is in hopes of getting rich quick. They imagine themselves getting free handouts or being buddies with the rich. But the rich will do what they’ve done since time immemorial. Use and throw away when they’re done.
This. You cant give back the thousands of hours studying instead of living life and hanging out with friends, then the lazy person that only partied gets all their shit paid for. That isn’t gonna fly.
Or maybe instead of crying over the spilled milk you can bite the bullet and accept that at the very least future is going to be better. Because otherwise it’s not ‘I got mine you got nothing’, but instead ‘I want to continue suffering just for you to suffer, too’
Im all for that but thats not going to be 99% of people’s reactions. Thats like you working 40 years to afford a small house then your young neighbor shows up and builds a mansion from scratch while they never worked a day (this is why I dont understand why people (IRL) dont hate billionaires more, thats literally their life).
Violence to free us from oppression isn’t violence to oppress. Get your priorities correct.
Your food is stored for use, take it. Don’t starve. You were taxed for it, it’s yours.
That’s what I’m saying, I’m sharing perspective that they violently keep us in check all the time. Non-violence can work but most discussion surrounding it is from the ruling class in order to keep us from rising up.
However I disagree in solely nonviolence tactics, it’s violence to liberate, and nonviolence to collaborate.
What’s happening in the 🇺🇲 is counter-nonviolence tactics.
I was there witnessing all the noneffective protests. Get a back bone, liberate folks in death camps.
My problem with this is that most people think the solution is to ask politely leveraging peaceful protests and waving signs.
When in reality this has been a popular concept that is protested for the past 100 years with ZERO actual progress, and the real solution to properly implement this kind of generous socialist idea of distribution of wealth and food and shelter with equity requires aggressive rhetoric and likely needs to be enforced with actual violence, otherwise fascism and capitalism will continue to persist for generations.
Honestly, I think most people don’t even see it as a problem. Anyone who is better off than the average person likely doesn’t want stuff to get handed out for free. It’s easy to think “I struggled to get my stuff and now we’re just going to give it out for free!?”
It’s like someone finally paying off their student loan after years of thrifty spending and going without and then seeing their classmate who didn’t pay a dime towards theirs, instead spending on frivolous luxuries and going on yearly trips, having it forgiven. The person who did things “the right way” feels like they got played.
Unless people who have gone through struggles to improve their situation can avoid feeling slighted, they’re unlikely to be supportive of change.
While my anecdotal story won’t mean much in the sea of Internet comments, i look at it from a societal point of view; when I graduated college, I came out with $100k in debt, no job, and no way to make ends meet. I did work hard through jobs and through as many clever ways to move the debt around as much as possible. Eventually, after many years, they were paid off. Student loans are a curse cast by the greedy predatory schools and lenders that make empty promises.
Who am I to get upset when someone figures out a way, or stumbles into a way to release them from that curse? In the long run, the sooner loans are paid off/forgiven, the sooner it will help everyone else.
The most important asset to any country is it’s people, so why wouldn’t we want to take care of each other in every way possible? We all live on the same rock together, so why not try to make life less painful for everyone.
Will people take advantage of it? Of course. There is no way to prevent that, but if resources are provided or made easier to access, then it makes it less likely for people to take advantage of it.
Do I think that will ever happen? Probably not, it’s a utopian ideal and it would take such a major paradigm shift to get people to have empathy for others and to help lift each other up during rough times. I still think it’s something to strive for, even if we only achieve a fraction of that utopia.
Okay, so why aren’t people upset that some joker who wasn’t smart enough to get a physics degree and switched majors because it was too hard, then had a sure thing handed to him by the company he was working for arguably because he was bad at his job, started a business that took less than a month of work to become profitable, and then became one of the world’s richest men by exploiting the desperate working class? Why aren’t people angry about that?
Probably because they can’t relate to someone who has lived his whole life in extravagance. But they can relate to the neighbourhood kid whose college debt was excused. They can imagine “It should’ve been me, not him”. That’s their envy.
The likely reason they follow the clowns is in hopes of getting rich quick. They imagine themselves getting free handouts or being buddies with the rich. But the rich will do what they’ve done since time immemorial. Use and throw away when they’re done.
This. You cant give back the thousands of hours studying instead of living life and hanging out with friends, then the lazy person that only partied gets all their shit paid for. That isn’t gonna fly.
Or maybe instead of crying over the spilled milk you can bite the bullet and accept that at the very least future is going to be better. Because otherwise it’s not ‘I got mine you got nothing’, but instead ‘I want to continue suffering just for you to suffer, too’
Im all for that but thats not going to be 99% of people’s reactions. Thats like you working 40 years to afford a small house then your young neighbor shows up and builds a mansion from scratch while they never worked a day (this is why I dont understand why people (IRL) dont hate billionaires more, thats literally their life).
Peaceful protesting does work. But the sit in and get arrested kind. Waving signs doesn’t do much. People aren’t miserable enough yet to misbehave.
Also the don’t work and grind the economy to a screeching halt kind.
Actual violence was used by the rich to create this current moment too. It is all they know or will understand.
Violence to free us from oppression isn’t violence to oppress. Get your priorities correct. Your food is stored for use, take it. Don’t starve. You were taxed for it, it’s yours.
That’s what I’m saying, I’m sharing perspective that they violently keep us in check all the time. Non-violence can work but most discussion surrounding it is from the ruling class in order to keep us from rising up.
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However I disagree in solely nonviolence tactics, it’s violence to liberate, and nonviolence to collaborate.
What’s happening in the 🇺🇲 is counter-nonviolence tactics.
I was there witnessing all the noneffective protests. Get a back bone, liberate folks in death camps.