• chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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    23 hours ago

    There’s a reason ICE conceal their faces.

    They know what they’re doing is wrong and don’t want to be held accountable if their fascist rule collapses.

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      15 hours ago

      So just use one too and blend in. Put on a stupid Trump or racist hat, and if you are not white, put on gloves. Then surround them.

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      19 hours ago

      They know what they’re doing is wrong

      Is that why the protestors where them too?

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        14 hours ago

        Please post the entirety of your online history.

        Surely there’s no reason to hide.

        Whether what you’ve done is entirely legal (or not) authoritariaism doesn’t care.

        What is done in a free society is punished by small men with anger control issues.

        What you may find reasonable to say in a free society, could, under a government opposed to free expression, land you in el Segundo - without your wallet.

        The gestapo hide their faces because they know what they do is wrong, and to hide from justice.

        People who protest or simply appreciate privacy do so because they understand the potential for retribution and being disappeared.

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          14 hours ago

          Please post the entirety of your online history. Surely there’s no reason to hide.

          …we’re talking about hiding though

          Whether what you’ve done is entirely legal (or not) authoritariaism doesn’t care.

          That goes both ways. That was my entire point.

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            7 hours ago

            Who is in power again? The protesters are not making anyone disappear. Goodbye, troll.

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              5 hours ago

              You think individuals can’t be targeted because they’re “in power”? Why do you think they’re wearing them?

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        18 hours ago

        Protestors or vandals and rioters?

        The former: to prevent government persecution and unfair retaliation. The latter: yes.

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          18 hours ago

          Protestors or vandals and rioters?

          Yes.

          The former: to prevent government persecution and unfair retaliation.

          Why would they face persecution if they did nothing wrong!?

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            18 hours ago

            The government has always had it out for protestors, to the extent that they’ll try and use agents provocateur to escalate the situation. They don’t want people to protest, they just want people to life back and take it. C’mon, you seriously asking this?

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              The point I’m trying to make is that everyone is wearing a mask for the same reason: to prevent retribution for their beliefs and according actions.

              They don’t “know what they’re doing is wrong”, they just know that other people think that and will target them for it, which is the exact same reason protestors wear them.

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                7 hours ago

                Your point is moot.

                For the people by the people or did you forget?

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                  5 hours ago

                  What do you think that phrase means? The gov just let’s people do whatever they want?

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                17 hours ago

                There’s a difference between wearing a mask because you are engaging in wrongdoing and wearing a mask to prevent unjust retaliation. Even if the actual motive is the same, the implications are very different

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                  17 hours ago

                  The only difference is what you consider to be “wrong” or “just”.

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                    17 hours ago

                    I am not the arbiter of what is/isn’t wrong, but there are some general consensus among the public as well as pertinent legal frameworks.

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                15 hours ago

                the government should always identify itself to the people

                the people should, by default, not be identified by the government

                the power imbalance is important: the government is a large and powerful entity which is meant to serve the people without prejudice. people are individually small, and only gain their power from being a large group. the government is given power by the people in order for it to perform tasks beneficial to all, and must be accountable to the people

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                17 hours ago

                Some beliefs require retribution. Some causes are righteous. Fuck off with your false equivalencies. Rioters aren’t employed by the people- law enforcement is.