Deepseak did show it could be done cheaply but imagine if you could take their optimisations and throw more power behind it (ie: buy a fuck tone of GPUs that the Chinese dont officially have access to)
Could work, the EU should pursue AI independence else it will continue its slide into irrelevance. Glad France is stepping up to the plate on this
Fair enough, it would be good for their energy independence but not sure they would want to stick to a timeline. Even if they did, not sure they would agree to an enforcement mechanism given they see themselves as a superpower (which they are) and wouldn’t want to be told what to do by the EU (not really a superpower even if on paper it could be) if any targets slipped.
Even so, I hope they can come to a deal. It would help both sides I think even if working with the Chinese will be a tricky business given their less than stellar human rights practices
Can’t read but will comment on the title.
The idea would be very cool but I don’t know how serious China is on cutting down their emissions (especially at the expense of their exports being more expensive).
Just the EU and UK could feaisbly do it but it seems politicians are starting to push back against green policies since there is a belief they will hinder rather than help growth. Whether that is true or not is up for debate but I think it would be a missed opportunity for the EU/UK to miss out on another technological advancement that might pay dividends in the future. For example, figuring out how to use Hydrogen as a replacement for LNG could then be exported all over the world. Might bean renewables could have their excess energy stored efficiently.
That’s upsetting, haven’t heard much from them since the early days of the Ai boom
Where is Mistral in all this? If they haven’t joined, they should join too!
I just meant generally, not sure what ‘open source’ means in the context of ai (not a programmer)
They didn’t really praise them. They just hoped that the republicans would go back to being against big tech (like they used to be 10 years ago he claims). Obviously, Trump’s not going to do that but I think we can all agree big tech is a big problem
But his ‘support’ of the republicans was saying that 10 years ago they used to be against big tech and that he hoped Trump would vary that forward. Obviously Trump is very unlikely to do this but he is literally just hoping the republicans would do something about big tech that the dema didn’t do
Sure it might but the thing is it may still acknowledge that there are different opinions on some topics. Does reflect how whilst governments may have a narrative, people can say what they think. In China, that’s a different story…
True, hosting deepseek yourself is much better. I’d still wait and see if anyone finds weird stuff in the code itself but tbh idk how long that could take.
Can’t wait for the models to get better and hopefully stay open source!
I don’t think they are that biased. They say in the article that ai models from all the leading companies are not private and shouldn’t be trusted with your data. The article is focusing on Deepseek given that’s the new big thing. Of course, since it’s controlled by China that makes data privacy even less of a thing that can be trusted.
Should we trust Deepseek? No. Should we trust OpenAI? No. Should we trust anything that is not developed by an open community? No.
I don’t think Proton is biased, they are explaining the risks with Deepseek specifically and mention how Ai’s aren’t much better. The article is not titled “Deepseek vs OpenAI” or anything like that. I don’t get why people bag on proton when they are the biggest privacy focused player that could (almost) replace google for most people!
Totally agree, reading the description of what they want to do sounds decent but it needs to happen. If the EU can be treated as a homogeneous entity for businesses that will really help make things less of a ball ache and the business can focus on their business itself
Let’s see if they can actually make it happen quickly
People on YouTube have to make money and it works. They do actually follow through with the title so it’s not that bad
The EU just doesn’t have any companies that can put together something that can compete. CPUs and GPUs have been around for a while and the technical knowledge and patents these companies have gathered is basically insurmountable.
Graphcore is a startup in the UK that has been trying to get into the ai processor market for a few years but even though they got a load of money their chips have not been competitive (if they were able to get any out the door).
Arm could feasibly do it (given they already make the CPU/GPU designs) but their business model is selling the base designs to other companies. If they started to make their own chips then those that buy from ARM (Qualcomm, mediatech…) might look to developing their own risk-V chips
Imo, I think the EU should try and make a company similar in style to what happened with Airbus. Combine a bunch of companies together across the union, give them money and contracts and let them cook. Seems to me the only way to enter this kind of market.