• UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world
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    In bigger projects, you tend to miss type safety really bad, really fast. Rust has it built in, Python can have it bolted on. That’s simply one of the many aspects to consider when choosing your programming language.

    But don’t worry about it too much. If one thing’s for sure, it’s that you will regret that choice in any case.

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      Yeah I usually love Python but right now I’m working on a paid project where I need to deal with tasks that are critical to mostly work on first try. Now, if it would be a different matter if my code was just completely idiotic and still worked but Python doesn’t error even when there is obvious typo that any statically compiled language could’ve picked up on a breeze at compile time.

      I am scared to even implement a better logging system in my program because sometimes I forget to sanitize the arguments and my program fucking crashes at runtime because I added a new fucking logging statement.

      I so fucking wish I had static type checking right now. The libraries I am using doesn’t have types (via annotations) so unless I spend days fixing their shit, I will have to continue with these shitty runtime crashes for the shittiest small mistakes. I also can’t trust these annotations because even if they are “wrong” their code coul perfectly work fine and they could even ship the wrong types. I would have the burden of dealing with their shitty annotations if that happens.

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      It’s like learning Perl back in the day, then needing to learn use strict;

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          I used to love it, it could look a lot like c, or you could do crap like

          $_=<<'';y;\r\n;;d;$_=pack'b*',$_;$_=eval;$@&&die$@;$_

          Admittedly, they’re trying to obfuscate it, but even unpacking it a bit, it looks alien.

  • HexesofVexes@lemmy.world
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    It works and is a pile of jank - Python

    It doesn’t work and is a pile of jank - C++

    You violated gods laws with how bad your code is and it still runs (right through the wall) - C

  • Kushan@lemmy.world
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    Rust is completely correct to be a dick about it as well. Type safety is there for a reason.

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      Edit: for any possible future readers, there is a sensible default that I hadn’t found yet during this work in progress. It’s just in a different struct: SaltString::generate().

      I’d like it better if things were designed to work together better.

      Right now, I’m working on a password storage system using the password_hash crate. You need to provide the salt yourself; this is already a bit silly for not providing a simple default that just gives you 16 bytes from a CSPRNG, but let’s continue.

      You read the Salt struct documentation, and it talks about UUIDs being pretty good salts (well, using v4, anyway). So that pushes you toward the uuid crate, right? Except no. That crate doesn’t produce formats that the functions on the Salt struct will accept, like base64. So maybe the uuid_b64 crate will do it? I don’t think so, because that crate uses a URL-safe version of base64, and it’s not clear Salt will take that, either.

      You’re now forced to use a cumbersome interface from the rand crate to make your salt. I’m still working through some of the “size not known at compile time” errors from this approach.

      All of which would work better if there was a little thought into connecting the pieces together, or just providing a default salt generator that’s going to do the right thing 90% of the time.

      Don’t get me started on how Actix hasn’t thought through how automated testing is supposed to work.

  • mlg@lemmy.world
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    Hey at least it’s not JavaScript which is perpetually high on crack with Object object

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    Perl when I iterate over an object and treat the result as a hash reference: “fine, whatever. Fuck you, tho”

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      Look at mister “Sometimes I write programs that have more than a single niche function” over here

      This is a post about growing disappointment with Python

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    C when I cast a char * * to a char * * const: ok

    C when I cast a char * * to a char * const *: ok

    C when I cast a char * * to a char const * *: WTF

    C when I cast a char * * to a char const * const *: ok

  • Moc@lemmy.world
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    Do we need any more proof Python is superior?

    (I’m ^joking, ^I ^love ^Rust)