It is getting absurd at this poin. Just get a laptop and call it a day
Yes, but how can you train your beautiful gamer biceps then? You can have all that beautiful extra train and stay in shape while playing your favorite games. A double win!
A laptop does not support attached controllers for hand-holding. Seems pretty obvious.
I cannot hold my hands in the air indefinitely. Even completely empty my arms will get tired after a few short minutes, much less several hours. My Steam Deck gets held on my lap or on a table or something like that.
OneXPlayer has something similar that I actually considered buying (but ultimately didn’t for several reasons) that includes a keyboard and (laptop) trackpad and a pen. If I can buy 1 device that can do both handheld gaming and also laptop productivity, I can save a whole lot of money…
You know the fun thing? If they managed to reduce the roughly 3+ centimeters of useless bezel on all sides the size wouldn’t be so unreasonable.
I’m surprised about this - phones, monitors and tvs have this figured out.
I’d have to assume it’s a cost thing.I’ve doing bezels play an additional role of protecting the screen. My most fragile monitor is the one with almost no bezel-- a tiny bump and kaboom, fucked monitor. I’m sure that plays a part in the design decision.
Absurdly massive and yet no space for some touchpads? 🤡
Lmfao. I didn’t even notice that. Damn. They didn’t even put the joystick next to the buttons on the right side like the steam deck for better ergonomic, they STILL put it under the buttons.
Yeah, how is it that none of these so-called “rivals” have even a single touchpad? I personally wouldn’t even consider a device that forces me to use a thumbstick as a mouse.
nah babe just COVER your screen in fingerprints! everyone loves touch screens right??
“I appreciate covering my screen in fingerprints, obviously. But what really makes me happy is trying dozens of times to get my fat thumb to register on an interface designed for a mouse.”
- a quote by someone making hardware decisions at SteamDeck rival manufacturers, apparently.
Honestly the deck is already pushing how big a handheld can be and still be portable/handheld. I don’t think I would want anything larger
Yah, it appears that 650g is the maximum weight im willing to hold for more than 30 minutes. Even then I’d rather use my ipad as a steam link.
this is basically the oversized razer kishi pro with an ipad mini.
ive got that rn and it’s pretty amazing as a steam link device.
steamos really needs to fix their steam link code, it’s a mess.
Smart move. People keep buying ridiculously oversized phones. Smaller ones somehow do not sell. So why not apply the same concept to tablets
i agree. the reason steam deck and other handhelds work well is because of the smaller screen/resolution.
makes it light and games run ok due to the smaller resolution. a chonker like this completely defeats the purpose of a handheld imo.
Idk if I’d call the deck light.
Just get a beer belly and rest your deck on it 👍
Try the onexplayer and you’ll call it extremely light then. Lol
compared to a laptop, I would. even a small one.
I’m not holding a laptop in front of my face while lounging on a sofa
My hands are tired just looking at it
😂
Give it one of those detachable cardboard keyboards and it it would be an overgrown Surface competitor.
I agree. So big screen and controllers that Nintendo Switch looks like a lilliputian. Not so portable.
I don’t think 11 inch is absurdely big. That’s the screen size of the current iPad air.
The iPad probably weights less than half what this thing does, and probably takes up a lot less space.
Also it’s probably faster and almost certainly gets better battery life.
You’re probably right on the battery, as this thing has a tiny (compared to its screen and res) battery of 55wah
Such an Acer move to put a tiny battery in such a big (relatively) power hungry device. That’s what I hate the most about cheap PC manufacturers.
My next question is is this going to be built like an Acer as well?
Faster in what way?
iPads have ridiculously powerful cpus and gpus
If an iPad ran steamos and supported steam controller in some kind of wacky timeline it would clean up all the competition. This thing is like 400g for 13 inch oled m4 beast battery all day. The numbers squeezed into this thin sleek and light thing are pure insanity
If an iPad ran SteamOS, it would choke on running out of memory before Steam was done loading.
Thats both true and not really relevant, considering the iPad’s game library.
Edit: It would be really interesting to see an Apple-made portable game console, featuring it’s M-Series chips.
That’s why it is so frustrating, the OS sucks for many things and is very limiting but admittedly what it can do it does solid. Gaming isn’t one of these things
Yea? Are the graphics of the ipad that good? They have iphone level chips right (except for the pro ones, but those are like $1000+)
They have laptop level chips right now
There is no more iPad, just pro, air, mini, and the newest air has an M2 chip, though it’s a bit handicapped with one less GPU core
That being said, no, an M2 chip on an iPad Air is nowhere near dedicate GPU hardware like on these handhelds.
https://gfxbench.com/device.jsp?benchmark=gfx50&D=Apple+iPad+Air+6th+Gen+(M2)&testgroup=overall
As you said, maybe once you get into iPad Pro ranges with the M4 chip, but at that price point it’s way more.
Honestly, it kinda makes sense with the detachable controllers. It’s essentially a very powerful tablet. It’s less practical but it serves a different niche than the Steam Deck IMO.
I get it, but it wouldn’t be a handheld anymore. What’s a handheld if it makes your arm tired after a couple of minutes? Plus, the battery life on this thing is going to be abysmal with the 55wah battery they put in it.
This is the kind of thing you take with you on vacation in a motorhome at a campsite. Situations where a PC is not practical but you’re stationary enough to not have to worry about the size or the battery life.
A couchheld?
That’s what I said the second I saw it. Too big to be practically portable, for me anyway. So it’s basically a bigger steam deck that you only use at home. Not a bad idea, but not worth what they are charging for it, not for me anyway.
Lately I’ve been using an 8 year old 13" Chromebook and an old xbone controller to stream steam games from my PC to my couch.
No it’s not portable, but it’s all I would use it for anyway, and it cost me nothing but the parts I had laying around. Anyone else could probably do the same thing for just $100-200. Not $1000+.
I’m not against buying new stuff, and new technology. But it’s not always needed. For me anyway 🤷♂️
If it’s not too too heavy, I’m not opposed.
Bigger screen will make touchscreen typing on a keyboard less of a PITA
Some games require rarely typing into the on screen keyboard, and as much as I like my ROG Ally, the small screen makes the onscreen keyboard a real pain to type on
Honestly what I’d like is a secondary N64 style center back handle that I can hold with 1 hand while I type with the other, to make the typing way more stable.
Awkwardly holding it out on the left side way off center fulcrums it as I type, which makes it less stable. You need some genuine wrist strength to fight against that lever action while typing.
So, instead, I usually awkwardly rest it in my lap while I try and type so it’s stable at least. But this moves the screen a lot farther away so now I gotta squint at the small ass letters as I aim and type. Makes me feel like a goddamn boomer having to adjust my glasses and squint at the screen.
So… yeah I dunno, I feel like this is something that could use a better solution.
I guess I could use my Tap XR… 🤔
I have a onexplayer and it’s freaking heavy as hell. I love the steam deck. It is better in every aspect, especially the ergonomics of it. I despise how all of these devices have the right joystick under the buttons. It’s so awkward
Im down with the screen size but it really needs 4 back buttons instead of 2 and at least 1 trackpad for me to really consider any handheld. I also really like the scroll wheel on my legion go but I can do without on that
