• Harvey656@lemmy.world
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    21 hours ago

    Yeah, I have a friend who lives in Venezuela, he and his family can barely afford to eat, and I mean barely. Beans everyday and nothing else for years. I tried to send him some computer parts and it was going to be over 5 grand to send them, so I couldn’t afford that, but his pc was genuinely very low end 5 years ago and I know he hasn’t been able to upgrade, especially with all the money going to his 9 other family members living in the 1 bedroom apartment.

    But whatever lies you have to tell yourself to sleep at night buddy.

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      I think most people are indeed agreeing that Venezuela is facing financial hardship, but not because of Maduro, but mainly due to the sanctions by western govts.

      Venezuela is a small country and the US is a large and influential one. So such sanctions are going to hurt Venezuela.

      Can I ask a question to get the idea across?
      We have heard news that Palestinians have faced food shortages and there was even famine warning.

      Do you see it as a failure of their leadership or that of Israel blocking food and aid to the place, while isolating and attacking them?

      If it is the latter, then wouldn’t Venezuela be in the same position but relatively more favorable?
      I think that is the view that many in the thread have.

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        Palestine and Venezuela are not even remotely similar, while both have been screwed over by US stupidity, they are so vastly different in circumstance I personally find comparisons to be a little silly.

        Venezuela is well known to have screwed up its own economy in previous leadership, while spurred from US sanctions and interference it was ultimately their own actions that caused their economic collapse. Maduro has not helped with these issues and has only helped expand these problems. Though not nearly as problematic as previous leaders.

        And while I personally get the hate Venezuela has towards the US, Jesus they are playing with fire. The US is out for blood, and will likely flatten the country just because they can, its going to be quite bad, and very sad.

        At the point that US starts flattening Venezuela, killing hundreds a day and planning to rebuild it, then that would be a more fair comparison.

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      So what you’re saying is, it’s Venezuela’s fault for being sanctioned and embargoed? Is it Cuba’s fault? Was it Vietnam’s fault for being attacked by the US? Is it a slave’s fault for revolting when the slaver whips them back down?

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        21 hours ago

        We are talking about a modern dictator and the state of Venezuela today. Get your head out yo ass.

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          You’re making the argument that Venezuela is poor not because of sanctions and embargos, but personal choices by a democratically elected leader that has promoted and carried out poverty alleviation campaigns and pushed for food security through large social programs.

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          This is fucking medieval peasant level thinking: “Venezuelas economy is bad because Madura doesn’t have the mandate of heaven!”

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          21 hours ago

          We’re talking about imperial violence and the poverty it causes. Stop being a defensive child and answer the question. When a colony throws off it’s chains, whose fault is it when the colonizer retaliates?

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            20 hours ago

            First comment: Responded within five minutes

            Second comment: 1 hour later and nowhere to be seen

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                If you want to get banned just start insulting people like the op.

                additionally feel free to let your fashy friends know that I’m on payroll for both Putin AND Xi for my sfw online posting activities. I also collect checks from George Soros for in-person work that upsets conservatives.

                it’s important to have multiple income streams 💅

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                  I’ve started tagging every single one i see. I should write them all down lol

                  The insatiable fascist urge to make lists of leftists

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                That’s great, but now that you’re here go ahead and answer the question. When a colonized country throws off it’s chains, whose fault is it when the colonizer retaliates?