Welcome to Lemmy! The world’s epicenter of, “Hard work never pays, my life is a capitalistic hellhole, everything’s broken and it’s all fake marketing.”
The reactions to this post have me thinking I should finally punch out of this toxic place. Have none of you ever had this experience?! Have none of you ever worked your ass off and had a near or complete stranger compliment you?
Yes, I realize this is a sales guy making this LinkedIn post, but it’s 100% believable to me. If you were pulling a marketing stunt for your gym, would you be talking about the monstrous, scary dudes that inhabit the place?
And yes, huge guys often don’t often have personal space filters, they do indeed get up in your grill. Much like Lyndon Johnson, they subconsciously know they get positive results from getting into your personal space. (OK, Johnson did it on purpose, but still…) I’m a small guy, been there, seen that. I stay a bit back so I can run or have other… options.
I attribute the skepticism to this being LinkedInLunatics, which begins with the premise it’s probably a clout post. I assume most haven’t been to gyms, though, so if that’s your only frame of reference I can see why they’d default to it being fake.
Hey that said, people praising hard work at the job or in school is rare as fuck in some places. I know I’ve been deprived of praise way too much growing up. Maybe that’s how many people feel here, too?
Just block the negative assholes. There are a bunch of awesome people on the fediverse but the subset pf assholes is just exhausting. Hence my long blocklist.
There are some great people here. But unfortunately many are suffering from hard times (that’s me too). It makes for tense vibes. The anger is boiling over everywhere online, I’ve largely stopped participating everywhere and switched to lurker mode. (To be clear, that’s not because I think I’m better, but because it’s not hard to bring out my combative side, and I’d rather not contribute to the problem.)
Do you remember ptz? He and I spoke about the health of this fediverse some months back before he shut down his instance, and we both had the same opinion: things keep getting more toxic here, and Lemmy lacks both the technological solutions for moderation at scale and the community leaders we need to build a better place. One of those can be solved with programming, but the other cannot.
Rule enforcers are not community leaders. Most often the only time I see a mod account is when they’re enforcing a rule. They largely aren’t submitting content and then participating in discussions like normal users. And rules are good (in the communities that actually have some stated rules), but a healthy community is always anchored around interesting individuals who contribute to the subject matter and experiences of that community. Regular users do often take this role, but to have that sort of space created for those users, the founders/mods have to do the hard work breaking that ground. We just aren’t really seeing that here.
(I’m purposely being vague and leaving out specific criticisms because that’s beyond my point and it’s a systemic issue anyway. It’s also not productive to name names because the issue is complicated and we really do need better mod tools first).
These things taken together mean that the best community members don’t stick around. FlyingSquid was a huge participant, and I feel that his exit immediately damaged the quality of Lemmy. We’ve seen that a few times now, and I don’t think the network has recovered.
The bots and astroturfing are out of control here, so if those can be combatted, mods get better tools and enough good community leaders migrate here, then Lemmy might become a lot more like Reddit was during its heyday.
The problem is just not easily solved, and unfortunately I’m not in a position to help even though I’d dearly like there to be more positive online communities.
Yeah I don’t understand why this post is here either. But this is an anomaly, the poster in the image is far from what generally appears on this sub - he’s positively normal by comparison. But there will always be shut-ins that have had very few interactions with real people saying ‘faaake’ ‘/that happened’ on anything positive though. I blocked the r/thathappened subreddit back when I was on there because it had the same problem - too many blackpilled people that just wanted to shit on entirely believable positive stories.
I don’t think Lemmy has the same issue, it’s just a handful of users are toxic - so just block em. I’ve had a much better experience on Lemmy after i began blocking repeatedly unfairly negative or bad-faith argumentative posters/commenters, they add nothing to the community.
Its weird seeing people so negative to the idea that people would acknowledge regulars when regulars on here are widely acknowledged here for how much they keep this place interesting. Regardless of veracity of specific parts of the story, the overall idea seems quite normal.
Welcome to Lemmy! The world’s epicenter of, “Hard work never pays, my life is a capitalistic hellhole, everything’s broken and it’s all fake marketing.”
The reactions to this post have me thinking I should finally punch out of this toxic place. Have none of you ever had this experience?! Have none of you ever worked your ass off and had a near or complete stranger compliment you?
Yes, I realize this is a sales guy making this LinkedIn post, but it’s 100% believable to me. If you were pulling a marketing stunt for your gym, would you be talking about the monstrous, scary dudes that inhabit the place?
And yes, huge guys often don’t often have personal space filters, they do indeed get up in your grill. Much like Lyndon Johnson, they subconsciously know they get positive results from getting into your personal space. (OK, Johnson did it on purpose, but still…) I’m a small guy, been there, seen that. I stay a bit back so I can run or have other… options.
I attribute the skepticism to this being LinkedInLunatics, which begins with the premise it’s probably a clout post. I assume most haven’t been to gyms, though, so if that’s your only frame of reference I can see why they’d default to it being fake.
Hey that said, people praising hard work at the job or in school is rare as fuck in some places. I know I’ve been deprived of praise way too much growing up. Maybe that’s how many people feel here, too?
Just block the negative assholes. There are a bunch of awesome people on the fediverse but the subset pf assholes is just exhausting. Hence my long blocklist.
Looking over the comments, the broad consensus seems to be sane and on your side. Hope you don’t still feel like leaving.
Thank you yakko. I just get frustrated on here quite a bit. Great people, too much cynicism.
There are some great people here. But unfortunately many are suffering from hard times (that’s me too). It makes for tense vibes. The anger is boiling over everywhere online, I’ve largely stopped participating everywhere and switched to lurker mode. (To be clear, that’s not because I think I’m better, but because it’s not hard to bring out my combative side, and I’d rather not contribute to the problem.)
Do you remember ptz? He and I spoke about the health of this fediverse some months back before he shut down his instance, and we both had the same opinion: things keep getting more toxic here, and Lemmy lacks both the technological solutions for moderation at scale and the community leaders we need to build a better place. One of those can be solved with programming, but the other cannot.
Rule enforcers are not community leaders. Most often the only time I see a mod account is when they’re enforcing a rule. They largely aren’t submitting content and then participating in discussions like normal users. And rules are good (in the communities that actually have some stated rules), but a healthy community is always anchored around interesting individuals who contribute to the subject matter and experiences of that community. Regular users do often take this role, but to have that sort of space created for those users, the founders/mods have to do the hard work breaking that ground. We just aren’t really seeing that here.
(I’m purposely being vague and leaving out specific criticisms because that’s beyond my point and it’s a systemic issue anyway. It’s also not productive to name names because the issue is complicated and we really do need better mod tools first).
These things taken together mean that the best community members don’t stick around. FlyingSquid was a huge participant, and I feel that his exit immediately damaged the quality of Lemmy. We’ve seen that a few times now, and I don’t think the network has recovered.
The bots and astroturfing are out of control here, so if those can be combatted, mods get better tools and enough good community leaders migrate here, then Lemmy might become a lot more like Reddit was during its heyday.
The problem is just not easily solved, and unfortunately I’m not in a position to help even though I’d dearly like there to be more positive online communities.
In my gym I’ve actually seen this scenario play out three times IRL.
Yeah I don’t understand why this post is here either. But this is an anomaly, the poster in the image is far from what generally appears on this sub - he’s positively normal by comparison. But there will always be shut-ins that have had very few interactions with real people saying ‘faaake’ ‘/that happened’ on anything positive though. I blocked the r/thathappened subreddit back when I was on there because it had the same problem - too many blackpilled people that just wanted to shit on entirely believable positive stories.
I don’t think Lemmy has the same issue, it’s just a handful of users are toxic - so just block em. I’ve had a much better experience on Lemmy after i began blocking repeatedly unfairly negative or bad-faith argumentative posters/commenters, they add nothing to the community.
Its weird seeing people so negative to the idea that people would acknowledge regulars when regulars on here are widely acknowledged here for how much they keep this place interesting. Regardless of veracity of specific parts of the story, the overall idea seems quite normal.