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    If Germany stores it, it’s the same as if they would burn it

    It’s money the US has already spent (given to Germany). How does that allow the US to then spend it for their military??

    divide and conquer

    If you think you as a European (?) are responsible (or entitled) to solve the problems of the US Democrats or Syria, go ahead. I don’t. No catchphrase will change that.

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      How does that allow the US to then spend it for their military??

      The state can issue more bonds without creating inflation.

      solve the problems

      Have you considered working together?

      But more importantly, looking at others, you may see all the tricks that are used to achieve political goals. There won’t be exceptions for the EU. That can be frustrating, but it could help you to achieve what you want.

      Remember the attempt at messenger surveillance. The EU is not preparing to become more democratic.

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        The state can issue more bonds without creating inflation.

        What kind of 5d chess move is that? First, you spend your money abroad and then you can issue bonds which won’t affect inflation, because you’ve got a money leak?

        There won’t be exceptions for the EU.

        I don’t expect any. That’s why I want Europe to concentrate on its own actions instead of constantly diluting the view with a constant noise of other topics. Europe needs a plan how to respond to these threats and pressures from countries such as the US and China and for that it needs to focus, which is something a lot of people struggle heavily with.

        Remember the attempt at messenger surveillance. The EU is not preparing to become more democratic.

        Focus! This is not relevant here when it comes to how Europe should act towards bullies such as China or the US.

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          What kind of 5d chess move is that?

          Exactly

          diluting the view with a constant noise

          It’s a global game. It’s not noise but sidequests with serious consequences. If the US take over Congo to control essential minerals that the EU needs then that’s not noise.

          This is not relevant here when it comes to how Europe should act towards bullies

          It is. If the US control the governing parties and they can monitor any change in the mood of the population, do you think there will ever be a successful movement for European independence?

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            Exactly

            Did you come up with this idea?

            It’s not noise but sidequests with serious consequences.

            A side quest is exactly that: a quest besides the main one. If you just keep doing these and stall with the main one, you won’t have much success. When Europe has progressed in their main quest, they can waste all the time they want in these side ones.

            It is.

            …you say, only to then draw up another wild if-assumption from the endless box of conspiracy theories. Should you really think the US control the governing parties, we’ll have difficulties finding a common basis.

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              Did you come up with this idea?

              No, as I said, that’s how it was justified.

              A side quest is exactly that: a quest besides the main one.

              Which becomes the main one if it is an essential part for something important.

              Without secured resources there won’t be an independent EU.

              Should you really think the US control the governing parties

              Directly, no. But they will consult the parties about which candidate they will support.

              You must know the argument that the Democrats would have won with Bernie Sanders.

              Things like that are enough to maintain friendly relations.

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                No, as I said, that’s how it was justified.

                Yea no, not so fast. Where did you get that argument from?

                Without secured resources there won’t be an independent EU.

                Who said otherwise? If you want Europe to compete with countries such as the US when it comes to projecting power globally, hawkish approach but be my guest!

                But they will consult the parties about which candidate they will support.

                And they then comply with that? Are you actually serious?

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                  Where did you get that argument from?

                  I don’t know. I thought that it is common knowledge among those who read about economics.

                  If you want something easier to find, look for the Chinese trade surplus and that they hold back Dollars to keep the Yuan low to facilitate exports.

                  And they then comply with that? Are you actually serious?

                  What else would politicians do but those negotiations about power and influence? There is an article about the woman who selected the Shah for Iran. Why should European countries be treated differently if there is leverage?

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                    thought that it is common knowledge among those who read about economics.

                    It’s not. Sounds more like an argument straight out of some unhinged Telegram group, no offense.

                    What else would politicians do

                    You mean what else would politicians do than letting themselves being dictated by the US which one is allowed to run their country? I’d say: an awful lot of things.